I am new to this community, a bit iffy

JZ318 · Post by **JZ318** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:48 pm

With all the stories online about being ripped off, i am still iffy on purchasing a, rather expensive doll internationally

WM dolls seems to have alot of good reveiws, especially after looking over the site.
Still, this is my first time wanting to get a doll and it would not go over well for possible future purchases if something goes wrong

there are even "problems" with paypal and seen to much scam on ebay, let alone direct bank wirings ( with i have never done before, but sure there are some risks)

better to use paypal? what would the best way to purchase be?

read a post that beautiful dolls is an authorized retailler of WM and they accept paypal

it would be great if i could hear some stories of experience from WM doll owners and doll buyers
decision to purchase....process...etc

Prospectively speaking, i'm leaning on further purchases if all goes well.....
Can never be too careful

JZ318 · Post by **JZ318** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:50 pm

this is what i see....:

DON'T: Wire money to unfamiliar people

Sending a wire transfer is like sending cash; once it is sent, it is usually disbursed within a matter of days and gone forever. As a result, a wire transfer should only be used to send funds or make payments to people and businesses that you are familiar with. Avoid using this service to send money to strangers, especially those in a foreign country.

Xephyr · Post by **Xephyr** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:26 pm

Recommendations on Buying 99.99% Safe*:
- Directly from the doll company (DollSweet, Orient Dolls, RealDolls, etc)
- Directly from Vendors (1AMDolls, BeautyDolls, etc)
- Directly from members on these forums

Safe, but More Expensive than Vendors:
- Kanojotoys

Do NOT EVER buy From:
- Ebay
- DHgate
- Alibaba
- Other auction sites

*I put 99.99% safe for these ways because there's always a chance Customs, depending on where you live, might hold your doll if they find a reason to. This is the ONLY reason.

havefun · Post by **havefun** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:34 pm

Xephyr wrote:Recommendations on Buying 99.99% Safe*:
- Directly from the doll company (DollSweet, Orient Dolls, RealDolls, etc)
- Directly from Vendors (1AMDolls, BeautyDolls, etc)
- Directly from members on these forums

Safe, but More Expensive than Vendors:
- Kanojotoys

Do NOT EVER buy From:
- Ebay
- DHgate
- Alibaba
- Other auction sites

*I put 99.99% safe for these ways because there's always a chance Customs, depending on where you live, might hold your doll if they find a reason to. This is the ONLY reason.

If you do as Xephyr say's you'll be fine. Read some of the threads also that will help.

JZ318 · Post by **JZ318** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:55 pm

from what i am seeing, the sites above have been proven trustwothy? unless customs...?

I'm probably thinking of goin with beauty dolls, it has the doll i like, if i do order, and thhings get processed, send money, they would be sure to send the doll?

I live in USA

JZ318 · Post by **JZ318** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:57 pm

thanks, i didnt see that post

dragonfly8878 · Post by **dragonfly8878** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:01 pm

JZ318 wrote:read a post that beautiful dolls is an authorized retailler of WM and they accept paypal

it would be great if i could hear some stories of experience from WM doll owners and doll buyers
decision to purchase....process...etcl

I don't have any experience with Beautiful Dolls, but I have purchased a WM Dolls 135cm doll from Brent at 1amUSA. He was very helpful answering questions and responded to all my emails in short order. (Some have questioned whether he sleeps at all.) I ordered through an email to him, instead of the website, so I could customize some things. I received an email invoice from PayPal and paid with no issues. The doll arrived about a month later. I was very pleasantly surprised with how soft she is. In fact, I've ordered a larger WM Doll through 1amUSA again.

There is some mention of Beautiful Dolls setting up a showroom in Pennsylvania. And a Forum member named staycool64 has been pursuing being a representative for WM Dolls and having them available at a location in Florida. If you live near either of those places you might get to see and touch a WM Doll before purchasing. I have a number of dolls from different manufacturers, and I love them all, but the WM Dolls are the softest, most life-like to touch, and most affordable I've encountered so far.

Post by **Slew** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:57 am

Hi JZ318, welcome to the forum.

If you are not familiar with these dolls, and their manufacturers, you will only feel calm after reading some topics on the manufacturer's forums. It won't take that long. You can easily ascertain the nature of a company's trustworthiness by scanning the first page of it's forum's topic titles.

For instance, do you see a lot of topics with scary titles like: "It's been four months, where's my doll?" or "Just got my doll, what a rip-off!" ? Or do you see what looks more like a bunch of happy doll owners discussing things like breast size options, and insert comparisons?

The vendors and manufacturers that have forum accounts here at TDF have been deemed legitimate. You will receive your doll. There is, however, much more to a purchase than just receiving the doll in the mail. Make sure you understand the weight, size, capabilities, and limitations of dolls you are considering. It's your money, and you can't really ask for a refund.

Best luck!

Slew

Obin · Post by **Obin** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:03 am

I've purchased from Beautiful Dolls and received good service.

Good advice, Seattle Slew.

Christine · Post by **Christine** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:32 am

It they are not trust worthy then they are not allowed to sell on this site.. :drinking:

Post by **netwit** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:33 pm

Welcome to the forum, JZ318.
It's smart to be cautious when making a purchase of significant $$. Take your time deciding.

I moved this thread to Dolls in General as multiple vendors are being discussed.

Have fun shopping!

dave7311 · Post by **dave7311** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:56 pm

Follow this link to TDF 'Buy & Sell' section :
http://www.dollforum.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=77

AnonViking · Post by **AnonViking** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:42 pm

For RealDoll from Abyss, which I recently ordered from, they only accept wire transfer for international orders so I have no choice but to do that as I'm not in USA/Can.

Sure it's always a big decision to buy an expensive item, $6k is a lot of money. But I had no worry or concern sending them that money. I only decided to wire transfer after I knew that in the case I lost it all it wouldn't matter a whole lot to my personal finances. Sure it's bad, but not something that will cause me to lose my home.

Nothing is 100% safe in this world. You have know there are risks in everything. There might be tiny tiny chance that there will be a Wall Street crash that will affect all sorts of industries, and banks will go bust and all the money I sent will be lost. I mean some things are beyond control and imagination. All we can do is do our due diligence, research what is safe based on past experiences, and other experiences.

But, bottom line, if you're not prepared to lose it all, that is in the case all that money vaporizes somehow, then don't take the chance if that's somehow going to utterly destroy you or your finances.

In any case, you can always ask here.

DollAfficionado · Post by **DollAfficionado** » Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:12 am

BD will take care of you. BD acts your agent in purchasing a doll from the Chinese manufacturer. While you might be able to order a doll a little bit cheaper directly, you DEFINITELY want an agent when you are ordering a doll from halfway around the world in a country where you don't speak the language. If there are any problems along the way, BD will handle them. It's like buying insurance in a way. And of course BD inspects the products fully before shipping them to you.

Obin · Post by **Obin** » Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:25 am

DollAfficionado wrote:BD will take care of you. BD acts your agent in purchasing a doll from the Chinese manufacturer. While you might be able to order a doll a little bit cheaper directly, you DEFINITELY want an agent when you are ordering a doll from halfway around the world in a country where you don't speak the language. If there are any problems along the way, BD will handle them. It's like buying insurance in a way. And of course BD inspects the products fully before shipping them to you.

That's my tenet.