Sanhui 145, Heads #1 & #2 w/ movable eyes Comparison
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:03 pm
Both heads were purchased and received new, directly from Sanhui in February 2018
The heads are made for the Sanhui 145 body. I am pretty sure the heads do not fit any other Sanhui body size.
Both the heads below are textured skin in pail white skin tone (to match my 145 body)
The heads were both ordered with the movable eyes. The eyes in the photos are factory stock (unmodified)
Some general size differences are apparent right away so I did some basic measurements.
Head #1 dimensions on the left, Head #2 dimensions on the right. Measured in centimeters
In the photos, head #1 is on the left and head #2 is on the right.
48 , 48 : Head circumference above the eyebrow and around the skull.
8 , 9 : Both eyes together, overall width, measured to the outer most point of the eye openings.
3.5 , 4.0 : Mouth width
2.5 , 3.2 : Eye ball diameter
You can see in the first picture the dramatic difference 7 mm makes for the eye ball diameter. The Eye Capsule assembly for the 25 mm eyes disassemble easy with your thumb nail. The 32 mm Eye Capsules seem to be a glued assembly. And the white of the 25 mm eyes is brighter. After reassembly, The # 1 eyes are easy to adjust to a good position, just press the eye ball into the capsule a little and pivot it to position and release. The # 2 head on the other hand was difficult to position the eyes to look natural. The eye ball itself moves just like the # 1 eyes. The eyes are spring loaded from behind. So the eye capsule itself is working great in the # 2 head. The problem seems to be the cavity that the Eye Capsule fits into is too roomy and the capsule can ( and does ) get pushed to far back in the head. And it also wants to shift up towards the eyebrows and out towards the ears. I have a WM 145 TPE doll as well. It is also a new model as of this January. The Sanhui is superior in so many ways to the WM doll, but the eye lid thickness right at the point where the eye lid ends and the eye ball sits behind it is nice and thin on the WM head. The eye lids on the Sanhui heads are thick in comparison, making the eye appear to sit back too far in the eye socket. The WM eye lid thickness just seems more to scale of an actual human eye lid.
I was too lazy to take a picture of the WM eye lids. But check out the Sanhui eye lids below. The #1 heads eye lids are probably twice the thickness of my WM #85 head. And the #2 eye lids are even thicker than the # 1 Sanhui head. And the # 2 eye lid thickness gets exaggerated by the fact that the cavity that the eye capsule fits into is lose and the eye gets pushed a little further back than it should be, leaving gaps. The # 1 heads eyes are better than the # 2 head for sure. Mostly because I will never be able to get the eyes to look natural with the really thick eye lids of the #2 head. I do believe I will be able to improve the # 2 heads eyes by shimming the bottom of the eye capsule so it does not sit too far back in the eye cavity, I will also need to add a little cotton or something to fill the void on the outsides of the eye cavities and try to keep the eye capsules from wandering towards the ears and looking unnatural.
Overall the #1 head wins hands down simply because of the crazy eyes look of the # 2 head. I still like the face of the #2 head, the eye spacing seems a little more natural compared to the # 1 face. The # 1 eyes are just a little too close together and a little small. And I like the fuller lips as well of the # 2 head, so I plan to keep it, but it will need some custom fitting of the eye capsules.
Metricnut
The heads are made for the Sanhui 145 body. I am pretty sure the heads do not fit any other Sanhui body size.
Both the heads below are textured skin in pail white skin tone (to match my 145 body)
The heads were both ordered with the movable eyes. The eyes in the photos are factory stock (unmodified)
Some general size differences are apparent right away so I did some basic measurements.
Head #1 dimensions on the left, Head #2 dimensions on the right. Measured in centimeters
In the photos, head #1 is on the left and head #2 is on the right.
48 , 48 : Head circumference above the eyebrow and around the skull.
8 , 9 : Both eyes together, overall width, measured to the outer most point of the eye openings.
3.5 , 4.0 : Mouth width
2.5 , 3.2 : Eye ball diameter
You can see in the first picture the dramatic difference 7 mm makes for the eye ball diameter. The Eye Capsule assembly for the 25 mm eyes disassemble easy with your thumb nail. The 32 mm Eye Capsules seem to be a glued assembly. And the white of the 25 mm eyes is brighter. After reassembly, The # 1 eyes are easy to adjust to a good position, just press the eye ball into the capsule a little and pivot it to position and release. The # 2 head on the other hand was difficult to position the eyes to look natural. The eye ball itself moves just like the # 1 eyes. The eyes are spring loaded from behind. So the eye capsule itself is working great in the # 2 head. The problem seems to be the cavity that the Eye Capsule fits into is too roomy and the capsule can ( and does ) get pushed to far back in the head. And it also wants to shift up towards the eyebrows and out towards the ears. I have a WM 145 TPE doll as well. It is also a new model as of this January. The Sanhui is superior in so many ways to the WM doll, but the eye lid thickness right at the point where the eye lid ends and the eye ball sits behind it is nice and thin on the WM head. The eye lids on the Sanhui heads are thick in comparison, making the eye appear to sit back too far in the eye socket. The WM eye lid thickness just seems more to scale of an actual human eye lid.
I was too lazy to take a picture of the WM eye lids. But check out the Sanhui eye lids below. The #1 heads eye lids are probably twice the thickness of my WM #85 head. And the #2 eye lids are even thicker than the # 1 Sanhui head. And the # 2 eye lid thickness gets exaggerated by the fact that the cavity that the eye capsule fits into is lose and the eye gets pushed a little further back than it should be, leaving gaps. The # 1 heads eyes are better than the # 2 head for sure. Mostly because I will never be able to get the eyes to look natural with the really thick eye lids of the #2 head. I do believe I will be able to improve the # 2 heads eyes by shimming the bottom of the eye capsule so it does not sit too far back in the eye cavity, I will also need to add a little cotton or something to fill the void on the outsides of the eye cavities and try to keep the eye capsules from wandering towards the ears and looking unnatural.
Overall the #1 head wins hands down simply because of the crazy eyes look of the # 2 head. I still like the face of the #2 head, the eye spacing seems a little more natural compared to the # 1 face. The # 1 eyes are just a little too close together and a little small. And I like the fuller lips as well of the # 2 head, so I plan to keep it, but it will need some custom fitting of the eye capsules.
Metricnut