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Re: WARNING: To buyers of young looking dolls

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:25 pm
by Anung Un Rama
XXX man is correct.

Also donoghu is a bit off with his heights...Pornhub lists them all as a lot taller on their profiles.

That said a comprehensive list of short adult film stars is here http://www.fameregistry.com/shortest-porn-stars/

and who can forget Bridget Powers at 114 cm!

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The point here though, is all those actors listed while tiny and petite, look adult beyond reasonable doubt, so the same point goes for any mini scale doll under 140 cm!

Height is irrelevant, the appearance and representation of the doll is the determining factor for suitability for posting.

Anung

Re: WARNING: To buyers of young looking dolls

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:21 pm
by rubherkitty
Anung Un Rama wrote:SNIP

The point here though, is all those actors listed while tiny and petite, look adult beyond reasonable doubt, so the same point goes for any mini scale doll under 140 cm!

Height is irrelevant, the appearance and representation of the doll is the determining factor for suitability for posting.

Anung
Yes, for discussion and posting pics on TDF.

But the current discussion of the crack down on dolls imported into the UK seems to be a matter based mainly on height regardless of looks. Even a 150cm+ doll w/ small chest was under scrutiny if I recall correctly.

Regarding small dildo's and vibes. Many adult toy shops that offer Japanese toys have quite a few male masturbator sleeves that have the marketing gimmick of young virgin looks and packaging so....
I think the main issue is full body dolls.

Re: WARNING: To buyers of young looking dolls

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:41 pm
by neutrino
rubherkitty wrote:I think the main issue is full body dolls.
Ok, back to full body dolls. What happens if a man tries to import a life-like silicone child doll, and when border officials inspect it they find that there is no sexual functionality, but when they check his importation history, they find that he has imported (adult) sex dolls in the past? Are they going to assume that he will modify it to have sexual functionality? Thus arrest him for criminal intent? Or let him have it, and then raid his home months later to check if it has turned into a child sex doll? All child dolls, sexual or not, will soon be banned by the CREEPER ACT, will they not?

Re: WARNING: To buyers of young looking dolls

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:54 pm
by xxxman122
neutrino wrote:
rubherkitty wrote:I think the main issue is full body dolls.
Ok, back to full body dolls. What happens if a man tries to import a life-like silicone child doll, and when border officials inspect it they find that there is no sexual functionality, but when they check his importation history, they find that he has imported (adult) sex dolls in the past? Are they going to assume that he will modify it to have sexual functionality? Thus arrest him for criminal intent? Or let him have it, and then raid his home months later to check if it has turned into a child sex doll? All child dolls, sexual or not, will soon be banned by the CREEPER ACT, will they not?
Yeah, he won't get away with it. He'll be questioned for the intended purpose. Especially when you know how realistic these things look. At best scenario, either he has to import it separately or he has to be like a verified fashion designer who needs a hyper realistic mannequin over plastic ones for a show (and after the show he get to keep it? hm).

Re: WARNING: To buyers of young looking dolls

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:58 pm
by neutrino
xxxman122 wrote:
Yeah, he won't get away with it. He'll be questioned for the intended purpose. Especially when you know how realistic these things look. At best scenario, either he has to import it separately or he has to be like a verified fashion designer who needs a hyper realistic mannequin over plastic ones for a show (and after the show he get to keep it? hm).
I agree. This thread should be extended to a more general warning: If you've already imported a sex doll in the past, don't import any life-like child doll, sexual in nature or not. Once you place a toy vagina in it, there is a good chance they will find out (they are probably waiting for you to do it, assuming you're not already on trial for trying to import it), and you'll be in prison just like those who imported child sex dolls. Even if you haven't imported a sex doll in the past, just don't.

Re: WARNING: To buyers of young looking dolls

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:18 am
by rubherkitty
If you have a national import inspecting detail at all your ports of entry that are opening every package imported, cataloging the contents and to whom the package is being shipped to you better overthrow your government.

Re: WARNING: To buyers of young looking dolls

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:36 pm
by neutrino
There are a lot of real 17-year old girls who look legitimately like 21 years old, over even older. So does that mean that if you buy a sex doll whose head looks legitimately like 21, then it can be judged to be 17? And hence anyone who buys sex dolls (or just heads alone) should make sure that the head looks to be over 21, else you may be prosecuted for purchasing a sex doll that represents a 17-year old?

Re: WARNING: To buyers of young looking dolls

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:18 pm
by rubherkitty
As far as doll importation age regulations, unfortunately, we are at the mercy of whomever happens to be inspecting packages that day and how they interpret the guidelines they've been given.
Beyond that you might have to fight it out in the courts.
Personally, I don't believe there should be any regulations on the size and shape of a rubber doll.

Re: WARNING: To buyers of young looking dolls

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:49 pm
by jokerisalive
i agree. its all bullshit. a piece of plastic or rubber being compared to a living person and judging the individual off of it is ludicrous. People have nothing better to do than to try and make themselves feel good about there own miserable lives so they try to ruin other peoples in any way they can.

Re: WARNING: To buyers of young looking dolls

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:08 am
by violette_22
I hate to be the one to break some bad news, but... the reason dolls under 140cm are being targeted is because some BAD VENDORS label smaller dolls as Child Sex Dolls on their sales sites, in English, and accept Western forms of currency. As far as I know, no TDF vendors label their dolls this way, but if they are selling similar or the same models of doll, they could certainly be subject to investigation due to the poor marketing practices of other vendors. Officials in government already have recognized a link between other illegal media and possession of some dolls and that certainly has caught the attention of various media sources, justice officials and legislation around the globe. This attention, in the West, that is focused on dolls is currently only on dolls that are designed and marketed as sex toys, meaning they have some sort of hole for penetration, this includes male and female dolls as I have yet to see a male sex doll that doesn't have an orifice designed for penetration. In other parts of the world, any doll that has detailed anatomy (like sculpted nipples) is banned from import and destroyed. I have a fear that in countries that are now having police block citizens from displaying their nation's flag, the government will reject any argument for a smaller scale sex doll with little to no thought. That's a tough situation for sure.

Re: WARNING: To buyers of young looking dolls

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:32 am
by nicvncnt
violette_22 wrote:I hate to be the one to break some bad news, but... the reason dolls under 140cm are being targeted is because some BAD VENDORS label smaller dolls as Child Sex Dolls on their sales sites, in English, and accept Western forms of currency. As far as I know, no TDF vendors label their dolls this way, but if they are selling similar or the same models of doll, they could certainly be subject to investigation due to the poor marketing practices of other vendors. Officials in government already have recognized a link between other illegal media and possession of some dolls and that certainly has caught the attention of various media sources, justice officials and legislation around the globe. This attention, in the West, that is focused on dolls is currently only on dolls that are designed and marketed as sex toys, meaning they have some sort of hole for penetration, this includes male and female dolls as I have yet to see a male sex doll that doesn't have an orifice designed for penetration. In other parts of the world, any doll that has detailed anatomy (like sculpted nipples) is banned from import and destroyed. I have a fear that in countries that are now having police block citizens from displaying their nation's flag, the government will reject any argument for a smaller scale sex doll with little to no thought. That's a tough situation for sure.
Exactly. I'm sure we're all against the importation and use of child sex dolls but the suspicion is that this is the beginning of an assault on doll ownership in general and the authorities are just taking the line of least resistance with this approach.

Re: WARNING: To buyers of young looking dolls

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:32 pm
by Dick Centric
Muninn wrote:I think the Forum's stance on this is fair enough. I won't go into the ins and outs of how best to do it, but as a community we need to distance ourselves from the illegal/morally dodgy parts of the sex doll world.

As for ageing a doll, I think this site has been mentioned before, possibly by Haremlover? - How Old? From that link, my doll is between 20 and 29, depending on hair, makeup, etc.
Why not 18 y.o. with 18 proportions?

Re: WARNING: To buyers of young looking dolls

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:18 pm
by jkwon26
Would the following doll be considered as a young child-like doll? I am trying to buy it from a seller in the US and ship to Canada. It is simply because this doll is within my budget.

Re: WARNING: To buyers of young looking dolls

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:52 am
by hollows+fentiman
jkwon26, I would contact the seller and see if they ship to Canada first! Also, this may be something you could contact Go-M-Doll of Canada about. They are based in Quebec and have a good understanding of Canadian customs.

https://www.dollforum.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=392

Also, you will need to provide the link to the doll in question to them!

Cheers, Hollows.

Re: WARNING: To buyers of young looking dolls

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:59 am
by hollows+fentiman
By the way, that website of ‘how old’ is not very reliable! My Ashaki has come out as mostly 29 but on a couple of photos she came out as 12!