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My 160+ Kayla review : More pics later :)

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 4:22 pm
by take123
Sorry folks for the late post. I promised to do a review. Yes I was MIA for a week and it has been a fun week :roll: I wanted to have a week of experience before reviewing.

As a background, this is my first doll. I have searched around this forum and it has been extremely helpful in choosing my brand. I decided on DsDoll because it had the appearance I liked the most and it was decently priced. I hope my review will be useful to new buyers.

DsDoll customer service
Bar none, this is the best service I've had in a while. I was on email with John very frequently exchanging question and answers. The doll we ended up was the Kayla head 160+. I got the yellow skin since I felt the pink skin was too "pink" for me. I got the finger wires, stiff joints, and nails, no pubic hair, and brown eyes. At first I was worried that the yellow skin would be too yellow. Like a patient with a liver problem. But when I received her, the skin is very light yellow. Looks like normal "asian" skin to me.

John answers emails very very quickly. The only time he didn't respond was when he forgot to send me the tracking number, which he sent me after I reminded him.

The long wait
John said the doll was in manufacturing after I finished paying the initial payment. The doll has two payments. You pay a smaller portion in the beginning. Then their team goes to work and once the doll is finished John will take photos of the doll for you. You will then pay the remaining balance which will be a larger payment than the first one. Very quickly afterwards, they will hand the doll to their shipping company. Here are some pictures they sent me after it was done manufacturing: http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=143&t=67371

The doll took 1.5 weeks to manufacture for me. Very fast! Shipping was extremely fast. I believe it ended up being 3-4 days. See picture below. If you live on the east coast you might have a couple more days. I had no issue with the box being held in customs. The box did not seem to be opened either while in transit.
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One thing that surprised me is that DHL delivered on Sunday. Originally when the box left China, DHL said the box will be delivered on Monday but on Sunday morning they changed the delivery date to Sunday. So if you have a package coming keep yourself updated on the delivery date since it may be earlier or later! For me, somehow, DHL delivered on Sunday at around 2pm.

Packaging
The box is freakin' huge. The box is around 151cm x 48cm x 44cm. DsDoll's website said it will weigh in total 50kg. That's like 110lb!!! I thought I was going to be unable to move the box around without another person to help. Thankfully, when the box came off the truck the DHL brought it in. I found the sticker at the top of the box saying that the shipment was 31kg. So it wasn't nearly that heavy. I was able to push the box on the carpet floor into the desired location. The box is small enough to fit inside normal doors. If you have to turn the box and the walkway is narrow, you can stand the box up while moving it around, DsDoll did a good job protecting the doll inside.

The DHL person just asked me to sign. No ID or customs paperwork. He then left.

The box had some damaging on the sides as expected. The box is very very thick. There was no damage to the foam inside. The bottom of the box was wet a bit because it was raining on the delivery date.
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My doll was wrapped in a sleeping bag. I requested that to John for various reasons (protection from manufacturing and shipment dust, hair particles, foam particles, diversion for unwanted eyes from probing the doll when opening the package, etc.). John included some extra wigs. How lovely. There were two inserts and a manual. The head was wrapped in a lot of foam. The sleeping bag was tightened with zipper and also with very heavy duty velcro straps. The doll was very well "foamed". I did not see damage on the neck either. Usually during shipment the neck can hit the corners and bend undesirably. I fortunately didn't see any of that.

I am saving the box and all the foam and padding for the next time I move. I don't think it will be easy for me to find another box like this unless I make my own out of wood.

The doll (warning, some sexual description provided...)
The doll is gorgeous. The breasts are incredibly soft. The butt is a bit on the firm side. Like someone who works in the gym a lot. Doesn't bother me. The stomach, shoulders, legs, thighs, back are all very soft. Very lovely. Feels very nice to cuddle next to while sleeping :) Hard not to get aroused.

When first getting the doll there will be a noticeable chemical odor from the box foam packaging, tape, and the silicone. I washed the doll in the shower and then powdered her with baby powder (corn starch). This helped a bit but the odor was still strong enough such that you probably wouldn't want to cuddle with it in bed all night. I can say though that the odor from the DsDoll is more pleasant than my fleshlight (when it was new)

The good news is that the odor disappears quite rapidly. You want to air the room and have the doll naked and gas out. The process will take a couple days and after a week (so far) I can sleep with the doll next to me in the bed. I think by the first month it will be relatively odorless and eventually completely odorless. Washing the doll with lovely smelling soap will help.

The skin right from the factory is sticky. You will need to apply baby powder to make it life like and smooth. I applied with my hands and then used a makeup brush to make the powder go away. You will need a brush for hard to reach areas and applying on the face.

I got the stiff joints for posing and to hold positions when I wanted to get down with it. :multi: I think it was a good choice. I don't regret getting the stiff joints. It will require planning on what positions you want to use but you will eventually learn the ins and outs of the joint mechanicals and moving from one position to another will be quite easy. Follow the http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=143&t=53612 guide for new users as the joints are based not on ball joints.

The sexual experience is fantastic. It feels incredibly real. Simply put it's heaven. :whistle: For first time users, the doll will beat your hand or Fleshlight or any other toy hands down. The DsDoll insert in my opinion feels better than the Fleshlight.

The insert provided is lovely and has a suction effect. The back of the insert is not open like the FleshLight, so any lubricant applied will remain inside. When inserting the insert into the opening, make sure you put baby powder around the outside. I apply lubricant before putting the insert in the opening since it's less messy. When putting the insert in, I use my fingers (make sure your nails are cut) to squeeze the insert so that the air is let out and it's easier to shove in.

The insert is easy to clean. I use head and shoulders shampoo and use my fingers to move in and out of the insert to clean the inside. I no longer turn the insert "inside out" since I found that it damages it (cracks will appear). When the insert is reasonably clean you can dry it out. Padding the outside dry is easy. Drying the inside is easy too: get a T-shirt and use your finger to stick a small part of the T-shirt in to the hole and it will absorb all the moisture.

The hair is great. Although I don't like the curliness on the bottom. I wish the black long hair was "longer". I will probably buy another wig later that suites my taste. The hair stays on the head without slipping off. It is secured. Even during "rough" times. The hair has no odor from my experience. Washing it with shampoo will make it smell lovely. The hair tangles easily. Having the doll on the bed for a couple days, the doll's hair looks like a total mess.

Certain intercourse positions with the doll is not really easy. These include "girl on top" positions because the doll will not be able to support herself unless you are incredibly strong. "From behind" and missionary are easily doable. While standing and while lying on the bed were both possible. Spooning is a bit more challenging but doable. You will have to try it out and see and keep in mind to be delicate with the fingers and toes. They're extremely fragile.

If you live in a cold area, the doll will get cold. Heating blankets can help but I find that my own body warmth will eventually warm the doll up quite fast.

Be careful not to spread the legs too wide. If you spread the legs so wide, there will be gaps between the insert and the opening. That is probably a bad sign.

When done with the doll, always put the "holder insert" DsDoll provided to close the opening. This will help the opening keep its shape when the dolls legs are closed together. You don't want the opening to rip because you are storing the doll with its legs closed for a long time.

In terms of weight, the doll is not too heavy not too light. It would be nice is it were lighter but I got the lifesized doll. She's around 5 feet tall. For those considering the 160+ or other similar sized dolls, make sure you are comfortable lifting 60 lbs. The doll is very long and the center of mass is not concentrated like a gym dumb bell. When I move her, I carry her with arms on neck and arms on legs (where it bends). I find this the easiest way to move her. There will be times when you may have to lift her up from the floor. For those with bad backs, this may be a problem since it will put some stress on those muscles.

The doll looks incredibly life like. It is fun to cuddle when sleeping and its presence is warming. I would say the proportions are too "perfect".

I still have to buy clothes for her. The doll is incredibly skinny so buying clothes will be a quest in and of itself. I'll get some more pictures when I get more clothes for her. For now I only have underwear... For now here's a photo of her.
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Re: My 160+ Kayla review : More pics later :)

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:16 pm
by take123
Photos with brown hair:

I don't have my DSLR anymore so Samsung galaxy camera phone!

Re: My 160+ Kayla review : More pics later :)

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:24 pm
by luckyleaf
Congratz take! Beautiful doll!

You also didn't pay customs on DHL??? Are the customs always in the price?

Re: My 160+ Kayla review : More pics later :)

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:47 am
by take123
luckyleaf, I heard some members receive a mail from DHL some weeks later asking for payment. I have not got it yet but am looking out for it. I heard it was around 40 bucks. I didn't get a request to pay for customs related stuff yet.

Re: My 160+ Kayla review : More pics later :)

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:32 am
by Rick_Deckard
luckyleaf wrote:You also didn't pay customs on DHL??? Are the customs always in the price?
I don't know how it works in the USA, but here in Europe, DHL and other couriers bills you before delivering the goods, that's because they pay upfront the import fees to release the goods from custom. The bill can vary from +25% to +30% of the total invoice ammount (price+shipping costs).
If your doll has been delivered and you didn't receive any request from DHL, most probably your doll has been imported in the EU before she was finally sent to your address. In that case the importer payed for the custom fees and that ammount was already included in the doll original price.
If that's not the case, and your doll arrived directly from China...and DHL didn't bill you for anything, then it's been a mistake on their part and you've been insanely lucky...so better not tell anyone about it :wink:

And to take123, congratulations for the 160+\Kayla !!! :thumbs_up:

Re: My 160+ Kayla review : More pics later :)

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:03 am
by DS Doll Europe
Rick_Deckard wrote:I don't know how it works in the USA, but here in Europe, DHL and other couriers bills you before delivering the goods […]
Not necessarily :) We can drop ship directly from Dalian to any location in Europe and clear customs and taxes before the package is delivered. It's an (fully optional) added-value service provided by DHL Express and some other carriers.

However, there are only a few locations where these added-value services actually make sense (e.g. Switzerland with a VAT rate of 8%). In most cases within the EU, it's better to import to Germany and then forward to the final destination.

Also it's worth mentioning that in some cases the courier services do not accept cash when delivering the package; they send an invoice 1-2 after the delivery (e.g. Fedex in the UK, DHL Express in Switzerland).

Sandro

Re: My 160+ Kayla review : More pics later :)

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:28 am
by Rick_Deckard
DS Doll Europe wrote:Not necessarily :) We can drop ship directly from Dalian to any location in Europe and clear customs and taxes before the package is delivered. It's an (fully optional) added-value service provided by DHL Express and some other carriers.
I wonder how good it works, given the extremely erratic way in wich the import duties are applied by the various customs of the single EU countries...anyway good to know :thumbs_up:

Re: My 160+ Kayla review : More pics later :)

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:15 pm
by von_Shredhead
Hi Take!

Great review and write up of a very beautiful doll. She's very captivating and sexy! Has she told you her name yet?

Have a great honeymoon!

Cheers,
Von and the Clan

Re: My 160+ Kayla review : More pics later :)

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:11 pm
by luckyleaf
Thanks for the info Rick! I suppose I had luck. :mrgreen:
Anyway 40 bucks isn't realy much.

DS Doll Europe wrote:I don't know how it works in the USA, but here in Europe, DHL and other couriers bills you before delivering the goods […]
Not necessarily :) We can drop ship directly from Dalian to any location in Europe and clear customs and taxes before the package is delivered. It's an (fully optional) added-value service provided by DHL Express and some other carriers.[/quote]

Hi Sandro!
I am from germany. So it's possible to order a doll without any customs? I am thinking about to use the 145 cm christmas discount. But I don't know much about taxes and costs.

Re: My 160+ Kayla review : More pics later :)

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 7:28 pm
by SiliconeWorld
Excellent review TAKE123, well written with appropriate details covered. Your review (and those like it) really make TDF a valuable source of information.

She sure is a looker! Hot! Enjoy your honeymoon.

Re: My 160+ Kayla review : More pics later :)

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:07 am
by Ayron
luckyleaf wrote:Hi Sandro!
I am from germany. So it's possible to order a doll without any customs? I am thinking about to use the 145 cm christmas discount. But I don't know much about taxes and costs.
Pretty sure it is not possible (read: legal) to circumvent customs and/or taxes but it is possible for them to take care of the process for you, which is, as far as I understand, what they normally do when selling to a customer in Germany. They import the doll, "midpoint" it in Berlin and then ship it to you with UPS. Using this method should mean that the prices you see on DS Europe include all customs fees and taxes.

The drop-ship solution is basically point-to-point transportation from the factory to your door without anyone handling the goods inbetween. But that does not mean customs and taxes are or can be skipped :)

In any case it is probably best to contact them directly to work out all the details.

Re: My 160+ Kayla review : More pics later :)

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:48 pm
by Lustforlife
Wow she's gorgeous! Congratulations take123 and very good review, this offers a lot of insight to potential buyers as my self!

Re: My 160+ Kayla review : More pics later :)

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:28 pm
by haremlover
She's really lovely! Congratulations!

And your review is very comprehensively written and will be very useful.

Best wishes

Harem

Re: My 160+ Kayla review : More pics later :)

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:11 pm
by AnimeFan
Thanks take123 for this great review! It really helps me a lot!

Re: My 160+ Kayla review : More pics later :)

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:38 pm
by haremlover
I wonder if you might possibly edit and remove the last sentence of your last post? It's sensitive information.

;-)

Sometimes one's luckier than others.

Best wishes

Harem