model suggestions

tubee · Post by **tubee** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:41 am

Hi ORDoll, welcome to the TDF forum.

All of us are excited about a new manufacturer offering new models with new innovations. I’m glad to see a torso model and a smaller-breasted version of Sara are in the works. I think what most TPE fans and doll enthusiasts are concerned about with TPE dolls is the weight. Silicone manufacturers use foam cores as a practical solution. Unfortunately, foam core is not a viable solution with TPE.

So what I'm hoping is, in the future, ORDoll will research and then offer a smaller lighter doll at 16kgs or less.
I’d like to suggest this body type as a reference for a slender doll that could be lighter in weight.

More images of the model can be found here:
http://www.tokyodoll.biz/dollbodys/deta ... h_50m.html

Again, thanks for joining the forum and welcome!

AndroidGenius · Post by **AndroidGenius** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:52 am

A 'waif' figure like that would be great, and there certainly doesn't seem to be anything on the market except for the 80cm silicone elf doll. And you're right, a thin figure with normal sized breasts would go a long way to reducing weight. Surely there is a market for supermodel-shaped bodies since that figure is used in 90% of advertising.

Dorean · Post by **Dorean** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:53 pm

Obin · Post by **Obin** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:00 pm

I feel compelled to agree with the suggestion. Thin and curvaceous is appealing.

Tybalt · Post by **Tybalt** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:41 pm

Ultra thin model but not disgusting skeleton anerexic. Have a plus size option where tits are big and so is ass.

Or make Allana/Luna tpe.

Xephyr · Post by **Xephyr** » Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:03 pm

Dear god yes. Please! Her breast size is beautifully proportional to her torso size. I am all over breast sizes that are not too large or too small, I'm a middle man. The main problem I have with doll companies is that they tend to lean towards crafting dolls with unrealistically tremendous bosoms, which is just purely unattractive to me.

Additionally, there are literally no life-size silicone anime-based dolls out there. That particular niche market is limits itself to fabric dolls and I don't quite understand why, other than far cheaper manufacturing. You could be the first company ever to delve into this.

Ideal doll of this caliber for me would be 135-145cm tall, B-cup breast, anime or asian, made of silicone, cute face and eyes.

I guess I've always just wanted more of a non-serious cutesy type of life-size doll that could pass as a toy or collectable, rather the typical porn star doll everyone else seems to crave.

kookaburra · Post by **kookaburra** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:49 am

It's interesting to see what kinds of things different people are into. There's always a few guys who want a doll with insane giant tits and ass, or broom-handle thin and flat chested and everything in between. I think if there was a more clear idea of just how many actual people would put up money to buy these different doll body types, we might see more of them. I suspect though that the silent majority of doll buyers are more conventional in taste. If the manufacturer spends all this money to develop a body type that six people buy, that's a terrible loss. They go out of business and then there are no dolls.

Xephyr wrote:Additionally, there are literally no life-size silicone anime-based dolls out there. That particular niche market is limits itself to fabric dolls and I don't quite understand why, other than far cheaper manufacturing. You could be the first company ever to delve into this.

Yeah, I wonder about this too, it seems like a no-brainer. There are a fucking shitload of anime fans out there. If there were a really nice anime doll in silicone/tpe you'd be making sure that Japan and 4chan don't ever breed with a human again. It might be hard to find a general style that appeals to everyone though - I mean the heads I've seen for the existing fabric dolls do nothing for me but I have seen some anime character design that I really like. I would totally buy 3d-printed dolls of the current version of the DOA girls. Maybe a classic like Yoko from Gurren Lagann, or the girls from One Piece? All of these are really different designs.

Obin · Post by **Obin** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:04 am

majorperv wrote:It's interesting to see what kinds of things different people are into. There's always a few guys who want a doll with insane giant tits and ass, or broom-handle thin and flat chested and everything in between. I think if there was a more clear idea of just how many actual people would put up money to buy these different doll body types, we might see more of them. I suspect though that the silent majority of doll buyers are more conventional in taste. If the manufacturer spends all this money to develop a body type that six people buy, that's a terrible loss. They go out of business and then there are no dolls.

Xephyr wrote:Additionally, there are literally no life-size silicone anime-based dolls out there. That particular niche market is limits itself to fabric dolls and I don't quite understand why, other than far cheaper manufacturing. You could be the first company ever to delve into this.
Yeah, I wonder about this too, it seems like a no-brainer. There are a fucking shitload of anime fans out there. If there were a really nice anime doll in silicone/tpe you'd be making sure that Japan and 4chan don't ever breed with a human again. It might be hard to find a general style that appeals to everyone though - I mean the heads I've seen for the existing fabric dolls do nothing for me but I have seen some anime character design that I really like. I would totally buy 3d-printed dolls of the current version of the DOA girls. Maybe a classic like Yoko from Gurren Lagann, or the girls from One Piece? All of these are really different designs.

These have been available for quite a time. I don't see many owners posting photos of them though.

http://realdolljapan.com/pg111.html

acrux · Post by **acrux** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:04 am

IMO a slender A- or B-cup TPE doll 140-143 cm tall, weighing in the lowermost 20 kg range would be ideal. Presumably it would have to be made with a weight-reducing foam core. The possibility to order different size vaginas/inserts would be great too.

Xephyr · Post by **Xephyr** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:55 am

majorperv wrote:It's interesting to see what kinds of things different people are into. There's always a few guys who want a doll with insane giant tits and ass, or broom-handle thin and flat chested and everything in between. I think if there was a more clear idea of just how many actual people would put up money to buy these different doll body types, we might see more of them. I suspect though that the silent majority of doll buyers are more conventional in taste. If the manufacturer spends all this money to develop a body type that six people buy, that's a terrible loss. They go out of business and then there are no dolls.

From the perspective of a new doll company looking to go into this niche of business, couldn't they just use the bodies from current existing low-cost companies, like DS Doll (silicone) or WM Doll (tpe), and just design a head themed around anime? All they would probably need to know is how the head-to-body connection works. I'm sure this is a possibility, OR Doll is already doing this right now. And this is just to get them into the market to get enough cash flow so they can move on and actually create their own specific body sizes.

tubee · Post by **tubee** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:19 pm

Xephyr wrote:Dear god yes. Please! Her breast size is beautifully proportional to her torso size...Ideal doll of this caliber for me would be 135-145cm tall, B-cup breast, anime or asian, made of silicone, cute face and eyes.

I guess I've always just wanted more of a non-serious cutesy type of life-size doll that could pass as a toy or collectable, rather the typical porn star doll everyone else seems to crave.

I agree there is an abundance of pornstar type models on the market.

As far as TPE vs silicone goes I lean towards TPE because it is considerably cheaper in price and and the feel of TPE is great. Size wise as far as cost, one TPE manufacturer offers a 145cm for $2500 and a 125cm for $1800. A $700 difference. A 145cm weighs 27kgs. and a 125cm weighs 20kgs. Weight is a factor for me so is cost.

I'll buy the doll I posted if it were a 125cm. Show me a mock-up and I'll put down a deposit. A lithe figure, a long torso with a slim waist, I'm thinking a figure which connotes words like graceful, deft, and adroit. Asian face is good.

kookaburra · Post by **kookaburra** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:41 pm

Obin wrote: These have been available for quite a time. I don't see many owners posting photos of them though.
http://realdolljapan.com/pg111.html

I forgot about this! But yes this is an example of an anime style that I wouldn't buy, I don't like it. I'm sure somebody does, and maybe they bought it. It's also only for a couple dolls from one manufacturer. I owned one of these dolls in the past and I can tell you, it was not built for pleasure. It was built to be a tank, but in all the wrong places.

Anyway maybe it's too expensive to make anything other than the most generic anime style, or maybe these guys did their market research and found that a full size anime doll wouldn't sell? Who knows? It's either a failed niche or one that's ready to be opened up and make somebody a lot of money.

Another thing I wonder about - how difficult is it to make the molds for dolls modular? What I mean is, a mold where you can change out parts for different molds, such as bigger or smaller breasts? So for example you could have a base body and then the customer could pick the boob size/shape, stomach definition, butt etc.?

dragonfly8878 · Post by **dragonfly8878** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:27 pm

majorperv wrote:Another thing I wonder about - how difficult is it to make the molds for dolls modular? What I mean is, a mold where you can change out parts for different molds, such as bigger or smaller breasts? So for example you could have a base body and then the customer could pick the boob size/shape, stomach definition, butt etc.?

I agree about how great it would be to be able to customize a doll body when it's ordered. I've thought about the same thing. I suppose the problem is the seams. On the mold it may be difficult to keep the seams from leaking, especially if you're pouring in very hot TPE. And on the doll the modular nature of the mold would probably leave mold lines.