A more intense/aggressive sleeve/masturbator

flava · Post by **flava** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:22 pm

I currently have a Utensil Race masturbator that provides incredible orgasms. However, I guess due to lack of sensitivity, I struggle to feel the textures inside the product. I guess it's a little too soft and smooth so it's just the tightness that delivers results for me but it does take absolutely ages.

Hence, i'm looking for a new sleeve/masturbator that is far more intense and less soft than the Utensil Race products.

I've had a look at the Tenga 3D masturbators but, again, they seem to be a bit too smooth so don't seem to offer intense sensations for those of us who are less sensitive down there.

Any recommendations? A product that could be used inside a doll as well would be perfect, so it would have to have a fairly small overall diameter. I'm in the UK so local/EU availability would help!

Elfie · Post by **Elfie** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:52 pm

Which Utensil Race masturbator you have? because each Meiki product I saw (from the Utensil Race website) has a different level of softness. However, I would recommend "Julia +" for a stronger overall stimulation with similar feel to those Meiki products.

flava · Post by **flava** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:10 pm

^ Hi, I have the Utensil Race Proof 001 Maria Ozawa. It's very tight but a bit too smooth compared to a real vag.

Elfie · Post by **Elfie** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:53 pm

The Meiki Maria Ozawa has loose vagina feel (based on what I learned from some reviews). It also has a very gentle stimulation. It's perhaps the second most gentle masturbator in the whole Meiki line. If you wanna go for Meiki, the most popular one with realistic feel is called "ZXY" (Proof 005) featured a Taiwanese porn star. Though, the "Julia+" masturbator is what I would recommend first since it's claimed to have similar feel to the ZXY, cheaper, and more durable.
http://www.toydemon.com/julia-plus-masturbator

If you decide to buy Julia+ , let me know how you like it..... I'm kinda curious

beardygoat · Post by **beardygoat** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:23 am

just toss some sand in the hole .it will be very aggressive ,or salt, or frozen peas, or hot sause,, or or or,,,lol

i hope all know i make a joke.. do not try..well the hot sauce, or BenGay,lol

we are like Goldilocks, this one is too hard, this one is too soft, etc.

BG

flava · Post by **flava** » Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:51 pm

^ LOL.

I'd like to buy one from Lovehoney in the UK as they have quick delivery. I don't think they stock the Julia+. They do have a good range of Meiki Utensil Race sleeves though.

Elfie · Post by **Elfie** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:13 am

I now own the Julia+ but never own any popular Meiki. To me, Julia+ is a little bit too intense and doesn't give the realistic feeling. I prefer something that feel more real and gently slowly brings me to ecstasy. For that regard, the Sujiman Rina is better (the Roa feels about the same but less in depth).

flava · Post by **flava** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:55 pm

It seems the Meiki Sarah sleeve which is made of dual material is a little firmer on the inside so may be a good addition when I need something more intense.

LWhisperer · Post by **LWhisperer** » Sun Dec 22, 2013 3:35 pm

ZXY for casual use. But if I'm feeling really intense after a stressful day at work, I drag the prong through peanut butter and broken glass.

Sadly, no insert lasts forever.

greenwood95 · Post by **greenwood95** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:46 am

Hmmmm. I've tried about 6 or 7 sleeves so far and it's amazing to me what works and what doesn't. It's all down to taste and preference.

I've read that for stronger stimulation the big hitters are the Monster Wet Real and the Tenga Flip Holes. Although Tenga is not recommended if you have excessive girth. From what I hear the Venus Cross, the Fleshlight Stamina and Destroyer models are also bigger on stimulation.

It it's tightness you like I'd also recommend the First Sexual Experience. Cheap and gets the job done but I found it was too tight for me. But loads of others love it on Toydemon.

My two personal favs are the Meiki ZXY (005) which does indeed feel pretty realistic and when you go hands free it really sings and can take you into orbit. Nice sensation, slow build, just... nice and the extra weight/dual layer helps with the pressures. My other favorite is the Tomax Lilith Uterus (regular firmness) - also good hands free but this one excels as a straight stroker. This sleeve turned me around after my massive disappointment with the Fleshlights I first dabbled with. It's also fairly realistic, great pressures, and the onahole design on this means you can squeeze air out and create more suction which is amazing. The coup-de-grace on this one for me is the cervix chamber at the end. I'm just a little on the large side for this sleeve, but it creates a wonderful bottoming out effect at full insertion and you add this extra area at the top which acts like a bonus ring stimulating your "little" head and it's just fabulous. I've gotten a couple of THE most intense dizzy-seeing-spots-afterwards orgasms of my life with this little baby. I've already bought a back up and plan to make sure this stays forever in rotation. Now I just want to try other firmness levels!

For extra Stimulation I use the Tomax Lilith Spiral Wave. Spiral anything always intrigues me ever since an Ex-GF used this type of maneuver in her BJ's that sent me into orbit. A little stornge rbut not TOO strong which I like. A little less realistic yes but still feels amazing.

The other I'd say was solid but not as strong as these other options was the Tomax Venus Real. Weighty like a Meiki and a pronounced G Spot. It was good- another that brought you to a slow build but I prefer the slightly more stimulating textures of the Lilith and ZXY.

I'm in the middle of debating the next sleeve to try as well. Less about pure stimulation- and what's just plain GOOD. The Meiki Maria Ozawa is high on my list due to good reviews, the stinger at the end and just the sheer fact it's an actual reproduction of a vagina of a pretty hot porn star helps drive the mind wild. But the Meiki Sarah, the Meiki OL Rui, Sisters Mature/Virgin, The Sujiman Rina, the EXP Haruna Hana, succubus 2d wavy ripple, the Lilith Spiral Dots, the Julia+, the Erio Chika and the new Meiki Hibiki, all dance in my head. Anything with a spiral or cervix peaks my interest but after not being led wrong on the ZXY and Lilith I'm keen to listen to a stack of positive reviews too. I've also learned that I don't need tightness (which might rule out several on this list), but realistic textures, suction and bascially something that caresses nicely rather grips you to death. I'm likely going to plunge on the Maria Ozawa or Hibiki next. But I'm pretty sure I'll end up sampling quite a lot of Meiki and Tomax products her eon out...

Elfie · Post by **Elfie** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:58 am

I have both Julia+ ($60) and Sujiman Rina ($32). Believe it or not, the cheaper one is better realistic wise with slow built-up sensation.

greenwood95 · Post by **greenwood95** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:23 am

You have me really intrigued on the Sujiman.... for that price I guess it's worth a shot on my next purchase. The lack of depth on the Roa is a dealbreaker for me though.

I read the Julia can be too tight or too stimulating- is that true? After my disappointment with the First Sexual Experience all the talk of tightness in any reviews about a sleeve now give me pause.

Elfie · Post by **Elfie** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:40 pm

greenwood95 wrote:You have me really intrigued on the Sujiman.... for that price I guess it's worth a shot on my next purchase. The lack of depth on the Roa is a dealbreaker for me though.

I read the Julia can be too tight or too stimulating- is that true? After my disappointment with the First Sexual Experience all the talk of tightness in any reviews about a sleeve now give me pause.

Well, first to keep in mind, I am an Asian with an average size (5.5 inches in length and 5 inches in girth). I own Julia, Sujiman Rina (5 inches in depth) and Roa (4.5 inches in depth), and First Sexual Experience.

In terms of tightness (all sleeves were designed esp. for Asian men):
Julia -Not too tight
Sujiman -Not too tight
FirstSexEx -Not too tight

In terms of stimulation:
Julia 9/10
Sujiman 8/10
FirstSexEx 7/10

In terms of sensual pleasure:
Julia 10/12
Sujiman 11/12
FirstSexEx 9/12

In terms of realism:
Julia 8/10 (unusual friction, no suction)
Sujiman 10/10 (realistic friction, good suction)
FirstSexEx 8/10 (not enough friction but realistic wise, no suction)

greenwood95 · Post by **greenwood95** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:11 am

Nice. Very thorough.

Well Sounds like the Julia is the solid hitter I've always heard but you've done sold me on trying the Sujiman- especially at that price.

I was right on the verge of ordering the Maria too but I just read a fresh review talking about the misaligned internal canal and thin wall on the near breash and it's scared me off for the time being. Aside form your glowing recommendation, the Hibiki, Erio Chicka and Julia now have come to the front of the line. Once I give it a try Ill share my thoughts here.

Would you say the Julia or Sujiman are less tight/more tight that First Sexual Ex?

Thinking on it I don't think it was *too* tight for me per se. But there was little variety in the textures for me and when all it mainly has is tightness, it's not enough for me. I guess I prefer a little more gentle tease, a little slower build, I can reach oversensitive range where I need to stop and find my equilibrium pretty fast.

Elfie · Post by **Elfie** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:19 am

Would you say the Julia or Sujiman are less tight/more tight that First Sexual Ex?

Ans: The amount of lube + material softness accommodate the penetration. Assumed you have the same kind and amount of lube in, Julia and Sujiman will be less tight. First Sex Ex is more tight but comfortable due to its super soft material; however, it is less in depth, stimulation, and realism. Although it provides the slowest building up, the climax is not as strong as that provided by the two. I feel First Sex Ex is more like a pretty good blowjob.

The texture of the vagina cavity in the new 65cm Betty doll from BD looks very similar to that of First Sex Ex. The hole is bigger but I guess the silicone is not that soft which can make it as tight and stronger stimulating compared to the First Sex Ex's. This seems to be an interesting design especially if it also has a chamber in the end to create suction.

The Monster Wet Real is what I would love to try next. It seems to be very promising; it might be even better than the ZXY at a lower price.