USA/Euro/Asian Manufacturers way to get "REAL" Pussy in Doll

[pulchri-dude]

The old Superbabe dolls used to have Kevlar cloth mesh patches reinforcing the doll in strategic places supposedly to prevent tearing of the silicone.

Instead of a "Cat-in-the-Can" much bigger than a tallboy beer can look of a realistic onahole shoved in and trying to stick out of a doll could any USA, European or Asian manufacturer simply do this as a standard mold or extra cost option:

Make a fliberglass or plastic cast of the typical best-selling realistic onahole like a Meiki up or down or Maria Ozawa; put that as a plug in a standard doll mold with a little external labia 1.5" diameter neck to attach to the mold shell & cast in a place a cavity to hold immobile & secure inside a "Real" onahole.

Let the Kevlar reinforced silicone skin aperture circumference function as the "labia majora" puffy pussy & the untrimmed onahole's combination labia majora/minora function as only the "labia minora" so to speak peekin' out.

It could be squeezed in to lock in place for lubed lock n' load and then yanked out by hand to wash quick in the sink without moving a heavy doll for cleaning or having to wear a condom.

Shouldn't cost more than a thousand or 2 thousand dollar extra cost option on a current production doll.

Lot's want to see not only as realistic as possible external cootchie (to stay hard) , but a totally organic RG realistic feeling inside vagina/cervix instead of screwing a silicone toilet paper tube with or without suction.

[theodoric]

fascinating idea . . and to a degree I suspect that 4woods is doing something like that for their "all-in-one" option for the marriage hole . . though from the feedback I have been seeing . . I am guessing they must be doing it with the same silicone they use for the rest of the doll, though not owning one I can only guess at that . . possibly Carolinesguy could comment on that since his Erika does have that option

the utensil-race inserts do seem to be getting rave reviews from those who have purchased them

I would think that once the insert was molded into the doll it should not be necessary to remove it for cleaning . . any more than the real thing can be removed from a human female for cleaning . . . it would seem to me that the same methods human females use for cleanliness should be just as effective for a doll with that option . . . though the mixture used might need to be a bit different composition than what is used by human females

as for costs . . I would think that the cost of the insert + a few hundred to get it permanently molded into the doll should fair for that modification

[pulchri-dude]

These not so little f*ckers are like real organic girls, significantly softer than a Fleshlight, and even feel different one from another (see reviews under the "Premium" class at Toydemon). No way to thoroughly clean these out hygenically except under a running faucet surge and even a dab of anti-bacterial soap. Silicone lasts for a decade or 2 decades. These guys wear out in a year or 2 - they have to be readily replaceable so no silicone glueing & surgery of your doll is required. They are far softer than any silicone doll or even Cyberskin USA pocket pussies. They can be tightened up with fuzzy girls pony tail hair bands at intervals to slightly simulate in a way muscle tightness.

"These are the the most popular onaholes in Japan and the most realistic artificial vagina at the moment. 7 years of the research, development and repeated monitoring tests with helps of the Gynecologists and specialists, the world's first 3D dimension artificial vagina faithfully reproduced women's vagina. Over 100,000 has been sold in less than 1 year!

You will know the difference immediately when you put a finger into the hole! Unlike other sleeves with a hole or tunnel, Meiki no Hinkaku (Utensil Race) have a passage with almost a zero diameter, feeling is like pushing through layers and layers of muscle when entering and it gives a different pleasure for every cm you go in.
The only bad thing is that they are too big to attach to the love dolls.... Newest Meiki no Proof is small enough to fit to Love Body Risa!

I am lucky to have a Meiki Pussy once before I die (even though it is an artificial vagina... haha) Anyway, specialist says that 1/70,000 women has Meiki Pussy, rare vaginal structure which gives ultimate endless pleasure.

Two versions are available, "upwards"-regular and "downwards"-tight. Upwards seems to be slightly more popular.

Upwards - The inner design is a inviting snug-fit type, creating a more pleasant sensation. The angle of the insert will enable the penis to reach far into the uterus directly.

Downwards - The inner design of the downwards is tighter than the upwards version which will therefore offer an intimate penis-hugging feel. With its flatter insert, the rich and complex design details of the vagina is greatly intensified."

[theodoric]

These not so little f*ckers are like real organic girls, significantly softer than a Fleshlight, and even feel different one from another (see reviews under the "Premium" class at Toydemon). No way to thoroughly clean these out hygenically except under a running faucet surge and even a dab of anti-bacterial soap. Silicone lasts for a decade or 2 decades. These guys wear out in a year or 2 - they have to be readily replaceable so no silicone glueing & surgery of your doll is required. They are far softer than any silicone doll or even Cyberskin USA pocket pussies. They can be tightened up with fuzzy girls pony tail hair bands at intervals to slightly simulate in a way muscle tightness.

I understand about the useful life of those inserts . . and yeah that would be a problem if they were not relatively easy to replace . . your idea of the labia majora being able to overlap and hold in the insert would have to be the way to go

as for cleaning . . that I have seen . . in accessories that come with a doll . . (I dont remember if I saw it on a doll makers website, or it was posted by an owner) . . and again, Carolinesguy might be able to provide more information on that . . a device that looks very much like the same type of douche insert used by human females . . and it would serve the same purpose . . to provide a way for the insert to be flushed out with running water (or a suitable solution)

[EBF]

fascinating idea . . and to a degree I suspect that 4woods is doing something like that for their "all-in-one" option for the marriage hole . . though from the feedback I have been seeing . . I am guessing they must be doing it with the same silicone they use for the rest of the doll, though not owning one I can only guess at that . . possibly Carolinesguy could comment on that since his Erika does have that option

Yeah, it's with the same silicon.
It's not very realistic


I'm not the only one on the forum with a 4Woods with all-in-one option. Everhards Laura has an all-in-one package as well, Although she is a Neo jr, to my knowledge the vagina is the same as a Neo. And I think Dave7311s' Valerie also is an all-in-one, but I'm not sure about that.

[Erika]

I'm not the only one on the forum with a 4Woods with all-in-one option. Everhards Laura has an all-in-one package as well, Although she is a Neo jr, to my knowledge the vagina is the same as a Neo. And I think Dave7311s' Valerie also is an all-in-one, but I'm not sure about that.

You're forgetting MrGreys' Yukitina, and Valerie is an all-in-one. Dave modified her labia, using PIB labia.

[theodoric]

Yeah, it's with the same silicon.
It's not very realistic . . . . . .

many thanks for the feedback

[Yukitina]

Oops, I almost fell backwards off the table I'm sitting on

Yes, I am the real thing .....

Tina



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[Erika]

From another thread:

Slightly offtopic, but her vagina looks different than mine. Does 4Woods have a different vagina on newer models or did that person do modifications (my french isn't quite good enough to understand everything in that topic )

I do seem to remember some discussion in another thread . . where it was mentioned that based on complaints about the early version vagina and how it was almost unusable by average American and European men that Hiroo did make some changes to the design of the vagina

if you understood any of that article your French is WAY better than mine . . I dont remember much of anything of the 3 years of French I took in high school (1968-71) . . and LOL boy does THAT date me

Looking at the pics in this thread on that french forum the vagina on 4Woods is a lot different nowadays

[Erika]

On the vagina he writes:

J’avais très peur pour le vagin, ayant pris le vagin réaliste, j’avais peur de ceux que j’avais lus sur le forum, peur de ne pas pouvoir avoir de rapports avec elle, peur d’être déçu et de le regretter. Pour moi, ce choix s’imposait comme je l’avais dis dès le début, je préfère c’est plus jolie esthétiquement. Certes, cela n’a pas beaucoup d’importance à ce niveau, mais je trouve que cela est plus sympa à regarder, plus existant, plus agréable au touché et cela fait plus réaliste.
Donc niveau sensation, honnêtement je ne suis pas déçu, bien au contraire. C’est vrai que je n’ai pas de quoi comparer, c’est ma première "vrai" poupée, mais cela me convient parfaitement. L’entrée est serrée, le fond est assez large, les sensations sont très agréables je trouve Embarassed . Comme vous pouvez les constater…… nous avons consommé Embarassed Laughing ….à peine arrivé, déjà essayée…..l’envie été trop forte Embarassed . Elle été sur moi, au début le poids surprend, puis après on s’y fait. Pas simple pour la manipuler, surtout dans cette position, mais je pense qu’à force, on trouve facilement la technique. Pour le nettoyage, c’est vrai que c’est un peu galère surtout une première fois. Faut mettre la poupée dans la bonne position, pour que l’eau glisse, ne pas non plus en mettre partout. Mais bon, cela n’est que peu de chose et honnêtement, ça ne me gêne pas.

It's good I did a google translate, because when I first read it, I thought h was disappointed about it, but on the contrary:

I was very afraid for the vagina, having taken the realistic vagina, I were afraid of those which I had read on the forum, fear of not being able to have relationship with it, fear of being disappointed and to regret it. For me, this choice was essential as I had say it as of the beginning, I prefer it is prettier aesthetically. Admittedly, that does not have much importance on this level, but I find that is more sympathetic to look at, more existing, more pleasant with touched and that made more realistic. Thus level feeling, honestly I am not disappointed, quite to the contrary. It is true that I do not have what to compare, it is my first " vrai" headstock, but that is appropriate to me perfectly. The entry is tight, the bottom is rather broad, the feelings are very pleasant I find Embarassed. As you can note them ...... we consumed Embarassed Laughing….hardly arrived, already tested ..... the desire be too strong Embarassed. It be on me, at the beginning the weight surprises, then after one made there. Not simple to handle it, especially in this position, but I think that with force, one finds the technique easily. For cleaning, it is true that it is a little galère especially first once. Is necessary to put the headstock in the good position, so that water slips, not either to put some everywhere. But good, that is only little of thing and honestly, that does not obstruct me.

(I guessed "peur" meant afraid, it means disappointed)

[Erika]

In the thread where he sells the doll, he states again he is happy with the vagina and that it is not the reason he is selling the doll.

Le vagin fixe me convient très bien, je l'ai déja dit plusieurs fois. Ce n'est pas une cause de vente pour moi, bien au contraire. Si c'été à refaire, je reprendrais un vagin fixe.

[theodoric]

Looking at the pics in this thread on that french forum the vagina on 4Woods is a lot different nowadays

yeah . . it really DOES look a LOT different . . it looks as though Hiroo did some serious redesign work in response to the feedback he got on the early design

and based on what you showed in the next post you made . . it seems as though the changes Hiroo made are being happily commented on


thank you very much for the feedback Erika

[Erika]

Looking at the pics in this thread on that french forum the vagina on 4Woods is a lot different nowadays

yeah . . it really DOES look a LOT different . . it looks as though Hiroo did some serious redesign work in response to the feedback he got on the early design

and based on what you showed in the next post you made . . it seems as though the changes Hiroo made are being happily commented on

Yes, but in the sales thread there's also a guy posting (psychogun) that he sold his 4Woods because it was too tight for him. But that it did not tear (my vaginal lips are torn a bit ).
He says he is not large, but big his "gland" does not fit in a toiletpaperroll (I think with "gland" he means the top of the penis of which I don't know the english word rightaway . Babelfish says a "gland" is a nipple, I'm pretty sure that's wrong in this context ).

[theodoric]

Yes, but in the sales thread there's also a guy posting (psychogun) that he sold his 4Woods because it was too tight for him. But that it did not tear (my vaginal lips are torn a bit ).
He says he is not large, but big his "gland" does not fit in a toiletpaperroll (I think with "gland" he means the top of the penis of which I don't know the english word rightaway . Babelfish says a "gland" is a nipple, I'm pretty sure that's wrong in this context ).

I suspect that he meant "glans" . . . and if he says his glans wont fit in a toilet paper roll I strongly suspect he IS larger than most American or European men

as for your torn lips . . I seem to remember another 4woods doll owner who had the same prpblem with his doll and he found a way to solve the problem . . with a labia set from PIB
http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=31169

[Erika]

as for your torn lips . . I seem to remember another 4woods doll owner who had the same prpblem with his doll and he found a way to solve the problem . . with a labia set from PIB
http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=31169

My boyfriend repaired my lips the first time it happened, but they torn again (and he found entry easier that way ). But looking at the new labia from 4Woods, I think I want vaginal surgery .

I read about Daves' doll too, my boyfriend and me talked about it, but hadn't decided yet.