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Wow, is this JSDs best doll now?

Yes and in my opinion still Jiusheng best body ..Just the attention to detail, everywhere you look you see its just nicely sculpted no tube/stick arms here .. the shoulders the arms the legs the torso the wrist, all the muscle detail, all the realistic touches are there, amazing sculpt, just a nice believable balanced body.

Still they need to fix the LHP a bit on this body ... its not perfect .. it looks just ok ... but I am just anal about these things
The vagina opening should be a bit larger and by that the anal hole should move a bit up between the beautiful soft cheeks and not under
Its just more attractive and fun and more correct if the anal hole is not just staring at you,
just see yourself pushing those nice bubbly ass cheeks to the side and then seeing the anal hole in all its detailed glory would be way more fun and realistic

but if you are not bothered by this, then buy this beauty, the sculpt is amazing, and i have seen way way worse LHP on dolls.

What a figure!

That’s a beautiful sculpt, possibly the best I’ve seen. I just hope and pray Jiusheng will do something about making the openings bigger.

Lovely gal and outfits ....

Kazuya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:25 pm That’s a beautiful sculpt, possibly the best I’ve seen. I just hope and pray Jiusheng will do something about making the openings bigger.

Yes, super small holes don't work in slicone..at least not without being painfull and/or tearing..neither of which are fun. JS's vaginas are a bit deceptive, the actual entrance hole is a bit recessed and hard to see in most photos because it is obstructed from view by the lips.

Always go bigger, never smaller..because you can make a bigger hole tighter by manipulating the legs, but you can never make a small hole looser (without tearing it etc.).

If they need help, they can send me insert style prototypes in various proposed sizes and I will let them know what needs to be done to make the doll useable.

But yeah they really need to get this under control, and ASAP.

please check...without any lotion.

Perfection at it's finest.

DollCommander wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 1:05 am

Kazuya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:25 pm That’s a beautiful sculpt, possibly the best I’ve seen. I just hope and pray Jiusheng will do something about making the openings bigger.

Yes, super small holes don't work in slicone..at least not without being painfull and/or tearing..neither of which are fun.

As Jiusheng Doll shows in their post above this one, the holes while appearing small when "at rest" (I get very excited by Etsuko's little rosebud of a butthole) actually stretch quite nicely and accommodate a good sized penis. I've tried both of my Etsuko's (MLW 148b) holes and they stretch quite nicely to accommodate me. The anus IS tighter, but I didn't feel at any time that I was going to tear it.

To give a frame of reference: The only complaint my ex-wife ever had about our sex life before our daughter (child birth and an episiotomy can change the... er... size of things) was that my penis was slightly too big and that she required some slow, warm-up time to enjoy our sessions. (Which was awesome for me because she'd mount me and drive the speed at the beginning). Does that make me bigger than average or her smaller than average... I don't know. She's the only flesh-and-blood woman that I ever had sex with. (I have social anxiety issues, but that's another story)

(I won't comment on feel and pleasure as it's very subjective and I generally am not that into having sex with my dolls as I don't feel the squeeze is worth the juice on any of the 8 dolls I've own from 4 or 5 different brands)

horrorhorry wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:06 pmStill they need to fix the LHP a bit on this body ... its not perfect .. it looks just ok ... the anal hole should move a bit up between the beautiful soft cheeks and not under ... the sculpt is amazing, and i have seen way way worse LHP on dolls.

This is my opinion as well. Perfect body, but the anus is about 1cm forward from a natural anatomy.

It should look more like this. They're close, but not close enough. The anus is forward.

Greetings,

Somehow, Jiusheng flew under my radar until today! I've been getting close to narrowing my choices down to 2 or 3 other doll lines. But now, I need to look at this line more closely, because the body types and faces are exactly what I like...

I'll be researching this one today. In the meantime, anyone who really likes this brand, feel free to point me in the right direction!

I agree. This body/head combo is unbelievable. I like the new Isabell head, too.



These dolls are starting to look like top Hollywood actresses. It's really amazing work.

DocWen wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:22 am

DollCommander wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 1:05 am

Kazuya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:25 pm That’s a beautiful sculpt, possibly the best I’ve seen. I just hope and pray Jiusheng will do something about making the openings bigger.

Yes, super small holes don't work in slicone..at least not without being painfull and/or tearing..neither of which are fun.

As Jiusheng Doll shows in their post above this one, the holes while appearing small when "at rest" (I get very excited by Etsuko's little rosebud of a butthole) actually stretch quite nicely and accommodate a good sized penis. I've tried both of my Etsuko's (MLW 148b) holes and they stretch quite nicely to accommodate me. The anus IS tighter, but I didn't feel at any time that I was going to tear it.

To give a frame of reference: The only complaint my ex-wife ever had about our sex life before our daughter (child birth and an episiotomy can change the... er... size of things) was that my penis was slightly too big and that she required some slow, warm-up time to enjoy our sessions. (Which was awesome for me because she'd mount me and drive the speed at the beginning). Does that make me bigger than average or her smaller than average... I don't know. She's the only flesh-and-blood woman that I ever had sex with. (I have social anxiety issues, but that's another story)

(I won't comment on feel and pleasure as it's very subjective and I generally am not that into having sex with my dolls as I don't feel the squeeze is worth the juice on any of the 8 dolls I've own from 4 or 5 different brands)

My concern with tight openings is the push back effect and uncomfortable sensation of cumming into a vaccuum - there needs to be some where for the air to escape. I hope Jiusheng work on maybe offering different sized fixes inserts similar to what Gynoid offer.

First of all, my intent is not to beat up on Jiusheng (though it may seem that way in text), infact it is the opposite. I have been very impressed with Jiusheng's designs and have been following them for 3 + years. Jiusheng has been here and elsewhere for some time (years), but nobody seemed to care about them (very few had or posted them here, and very little interest was shown) until the MyLoliWaifu branded 148 B was "discovered" by a few western customers. In reality, the MyLoliWaifu version had existed for a significant amount of time (I had been watching it), but MyLoliWaifu is unmarketable/unsellable in some western markets and the majority of their line is generally unable to be posted here for obvious reasons (which is why the 148 B took so long to be "discovered"). It wasn't until Jiusheng cross marketed the MyLoliWaifu148 B with Jiusheng's branded (more mature heads), that Jiusheng gained any real traction in the west and relatively just recently, despite being around for some years. I have had the opportunity to see and touch multiple Jiusheng dolls in person, both silicone and TPE and I currently own a Jiusheng product. For years I've said they have the most detailed TPE dolls in the industry and they are underrated. In short, I wan't to see Jiusheng succeed but they do have room for improvement and hole size/shape is the major area to improve imo.


That being said..

DocWen wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:22 am As Jiusheng Doll shows in their post above this one, the holes while appearing small when "at rest" (I get very excited by Etsuko's little rosebud of a butthole) actually stretch quite nicely and accommodate a good sized penis.

Respectfully DW, what they show is a bit deceptive. Not that they are intentionally trying to be deceptive, but the actual entrance hole is recessed into and shrouded by the labia (which is good imo) making it unable to be seen in the .gif. I don't think there is as much value in that .gif as there would appear to be for those who are unaware of the recessed actual entrance hole. This is one of the problems though; people see what appears to be a larger, funnel shaped (false or faux) opening in photos and think the vaginal entrance will be accomodating and not prone to tearing. In reality, the actual entrance hole is small, with hard angles and just as prone to tear as many other manufacturers. If what was easily visible was the actual entrance to the vaginal cavity, the design would likely be nearly perfect in regards to ease of entry and resistance to tearing; the legs could easily be adjusted to adjust tightness, from easy for nearly anyone to enter to impossibly tight. For those who don't have a Jiusheng, see the photos below to see what I mean..

Torso version of what appears to be the 148 B. Cavity details showing very small actual vaginal entrance. Silicone 148 B extremely small vaginal entrance, must be torn to enter. TPE 148 B small actual vaginal entrance visible, recessed inside labia.

DocWen wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:22 am I've tried both of my Etsuko's (MLW 148b) holes and they stretch quite nicely to accommodate me. The anus IS tighter, but I didn't feel at any time that I was going to tear it.

Sounds good DW and maybe they updated it or you got an exception, but I've seen at least a couple of complaints of excessive tightness and resulting tearing at the vaginal and anal entrances. According to at least two 148 B owners, the anal cavity is the looser entrance of the two and is evidenced by the photo below.

DocWen wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:22 am (I won't comment on feel and pleasure as it's very subjective and I generally am not that into having sex with my dolls as I don't feel the squeeze is worth the juice on any of the 8 dolls I've own from 4 or 5 different brands)

I know exactly what you mean here. That being said, imo a doll should be useable for sex for those that do or want to use the doll for sex. It doesn't matter how good the doll looks if it is unuseable for those wanting a sex doll. Unfortunately due to inconsistencies in usability (hole sizing, placement etc.) between manufacturers (and even between one manufacturer's models), every purchase is a roll of the dice and a very expensive one at that. These dolls could and should be useable for nearly everyone (tightness) while also resistant to tearing (reduction of the need for excessive stretching for use and the elimination of stress risers). These things can easily be accomplished (not just Jiusheng, but most manufacturers) by:

- Manufacturers need to stop just pressing send on these designs. Make half torso prototype molds to test LHP, make insert/masturbater style prototypes of proposed hole/cavity sizes and send them out to multiple real world users to test for feedback before commiting to a final design. I know producing a body mold is not cheap, but here is the solution to avoid commiting to a full mold that will be labeled unuseable and frustrating by customers.

- Making the entrance holes and cavity larger. Tightness can always be adjusted by the user by manipulating the leg spread, effectively accomodating nearly anyone. You can't however make an excessively tight hole/cavity larger, at least not without risking tearing.

Or possibly the best answer..

- Make multiple cavity mold designs and give the customer the choice of sizing. The cavity mold inserts can (if they aren't already) be threaded into the body mold making them changeable based on the customers order. This can easily be accomplished with the existing body mold. The prototype testing insert/masturbators mentioned above could be produced and sold to prospective customers in order to help in making a purchase decision.

- Eliminate hard angles (stress riser). There should be no hard angles, especially at the entrance. Entrance holes need to be rounded at the edges to reduce the likelyhood of tearing. See photo below.
There is no reason why these issues should even be a thing, let alone common imo.

This and softness (which appears to possibly have been addressed) is what keeps me from buying the 148 B, 168 C or anyother silicone Jiusheng at this time.

Respectfully, DC, the post I was addressing was the question of whether or not the silicone tears when inserting a peepee in the vajayjay. I have a current, new Jiusheng doll (bought just last month!) that is one of the smaller models (148b) and my thicker Johnson fits just fine and doesn’t tear the silicone. That’s the part I was answering. Just giving my experience, which is…

I’ve pounded away fairly fiercely on the openings (oral, anal and vaginal) and I don’t have any tears. My Richard, while not porn star huge, is larger than most (if the numbers being spouted about for the average size wang is near truthful). The Soldier has no troubles crawling around in the Fox Hole and I haven’t torn anything.

I can only speak of what I’ve done to poor little Etsuko. I’m not gentle with my dolls. I believe they are toys first and foremost (which puts me at odds with many members of TDF).

So maybe you’re right in that I got a good one or an odd one. But I used the wire/cage buttplug and aquarium pump method to dry the holes when I’m done cleaning them. And it’s ever bigger than my Johnson. Still no tears.

Hopefully, others will also experience the same thing.

Aaaaah, I love little rosebuds…

:Shrug: don’t know what to tell ya.

Edit: And to prove that I really do have an MLW 148B (plus because I think her new dress and pink hair is to die for!), i’ve attached a picture of her in the Warming Cabinet getting up to temp for cuddles later tonight when it’s cold. She keeps my bed warm!