How much weight is appropriate to reduce？

[Lee_XTdoll]

While maintaining light weight, we also hope to maintain its softness.

[Lee_XTdoll]

The difficulty of ultra-lightweight lies in the control of product quality.
It is necessary to control both weight and softness. What do you think?

[DollCommander]

The difficulty of ultra-lightweight lies in the control of product quality.
It is necessary to control both weight and softness. What do you think?

I think low weight and at least "skin" level softness throughout the entire body is acheivable. Breasts should be easy to keep soft since there is more silicone material in that area.

That being said; the issues that many weight reduced dolls suffer from is not so much softness, but silicone delamination from the foam core in combination with thin (less silicone, more foam) "skin". When that happens the skin shifts, bunches, wrinkles, sags and creates void like pockets. Silicone delamination from foam core also likely occurs with non weight reduced dolls, but since there is more silicone material present the issues are not as pronounced in my opinion.

Pouring liquid silicone over the foam core and allowing to cure, won't likely achieve a strong bond. Bonding cured silicone to foam with an adhesive is likely the only way to achieve a strong and lasting bond consistently. Not a great solution for dolls unfortunately, because that would mean casting two silicone halves and then assembling those halves to the foam core/skeleton with adhesive.

[skra-snarker]

There are some members where weight is always the most important thing.
I understand that...

There is going to be a trade-off, if you are less focused on weight you can improve the softness, realism and strength of material toughness. Also, add better realism such as increase the under-chest size, more similar to western women, who might be a 36D so have an under-chest measurement between 75cm-85cm. The doll industry are still stuck with unrealistic chest measurements making clothing really difficult.

From experience, if you are fit and healthy and use a good lifting technique then up to 50kg is OK as a dead weight, but around 35Kg for me is ideal. Anything below 30Kg and I get suspicious about loss of material properties I consider more important than weight.

Now for people who buy a doll for photography and want a super model skinny doll and don't mind if it is delicate and value lightness above all else, I understand why they are coming up with figures like 15-20Kg. But to me this doll has a body shape designed for love and cuddling and needs to be realistic.

There are some who are not fit, or use poor lifting techniques where a heavy doll is impossible and I understand that too.

In summary, for your dolls where you target photographers - skinny super model style dolls, make them light.

For those dolls aimed as companions, perhaps the easiest way to go to market, is to offer two options, a superior fully featured doll at a realistic weight appropriate to the proportions and height and that could be up to 50Kg , optimally 30-40Kg with a weight reduction version not as default but as an option and explain the loss in performance. That might be 10Kg lighter, but harder, more foam and less features. People should still be able to add features that might make it heavier, such as gel butt.

Another marketing approach is to have an entry weight as a starter package, say 10Kg less than optimal which is hard, lacks features and had a lot of foam and give people the options to add features such as softness, realism, durability, gadgets use a calculator showing the increase in weight as a trade-off.

I love this doll and will seriously consider buying one, I have no issue with the weight at 37Kg or a bit higher if I choose gel butt etc.

Since I'm writing to you about this doll, she is superb and 95% there for me in body shape, although I am hoping you would bring out more western heads and actually my preference would be for broader shoulders and under-chest, not such a large cup size and slightly taller bigger butt so more of an hourglass. Thought I'd squeeze that in. Oh and a functional butt, that should be standard, baffling why you left that out.

[skra-snarker]

On weight reduction, the rib cage could be present and hard, with only a thin layer of silicone, creating a cavity that could be made lighter.

[XTDoll]

the xtdoll is lin , 150cm D-cup , Head + body, (all silicone) 30kg

[SimonSays7]

There are some members where weight is always the most important thing.
I understand that...

...For those dolls aimed as companions, perhaps the easiest way to go to market, is to offer two options, a superior fully featured doll at a realistic weight appropriate to the proportions and height and that could be up to 50Kg , optimally 30-40Kg with a weight reduction version not as default but as an option and explain the loss in performance. That might be 10Kg lighter, but harder, more foam and less features. People should still be able to add features that might make it heavier, such as gel butt.
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Yes, there are currently limitations in weight reduced doll tech. May XT be one of the companies that solves some of the issues.

There are hundreds of manufacturers offering great dolls up to 50kg. That market is saturated. And yet, I believe, the ability to be able to handle dolls that heavy is probably not as common in the general population as some enthusiasts on this forum think. Considering age, gender, fitness level, etc. it might be less than 20% of the total population. Maybe substantially less, but I'm just guessing.

Any company that wants to address the other 80% of the market (or whatever that percentage may be) with dolls that aren't outrageously heavy, that company stands to make this niche hobby go mainstream, for the rest of us non-beefy, non power-lifters.

The choices in light dolls are very limited right now. If XT wants to be one of the innovators who expand the market, I for one, wish them well!

[Lee_XTdoll]

What I want to achieve in the end is to reduce the weight while making sure the softness of the doll is softer and more comfortable, but the quality must be the first thing.

[XTDoll]

add Everleigh's body details, weight after reduction is 31,5kg

[4891d]

This 162 cm tall doll is really light if we consider her measurements.

[Lee_XTdoll]

This 162 cm tall doll is really light if we consider her measurements.

162cm is not only light in weight (weight fluctuation is plus or minus 1.5kg), but the material is also very soft. This is a technical area that many factories cannot reach.

[Lee_XTdoll]

The weight is stable at 31.5kg.

[Herodotus]

Max 25 kg with head is perfect.

[Lee_XTdoll]

Max 25 kg with head is perfect.

25kg can certainly be achieved , but considering the body proportions of 162cm, being too light will affect the realism of her fleshy body.

[Herodotus]

I was thinking of dolls in general, sorry. A 160 D-cup 22 kg would be nice.