What would tell a NEWBIE about NO OIL TPE?

Post by **Kite** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:58 pm

curious about this myself. 1 of my girls seems to always be tacky a day or 2 after pwodering cause shes oily but another thats newer doesnt get that way but has no visable signs of drying. i do oil them bi monthly or every 3 months. basicly when they need cleaned.

but not having to worry about oiling would be nice. but ill agreee with anug. my silicone girl. is a godsend. far less upkeep.

Post by **Booty Call Dolls** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:00 pm

ALCON,
What they do is a "hot wax (paraffine) coating" on the TPE surface.
And as we know, wax becomes tight and it is not stretchable.
TPE is stretchable and now it has a coating on it that is not stretchable.
It is an absolutely logic process that the coating peels off / comes off over time.

Post by **Booty Call Dolls** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:04 pm

This be true, there is no thing as NO OIL TPE, is there?
There might be a NO OIL DOLL, but for how long?

Kira-sama · Post by **Kira-sama** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:33 pm

Booty Call Dolls wrote:Kira-sama,
The true expert IMHO is indigo 20 and they will last longer..
Too much of a good thing is not a good thing

Ok thanks, I might ask him and see what he says. I don't plan on oiling my dolls too much. Probably once every six months or when they feel smooth without cornstarch. Doesn't really take that long either.

Post by **Booty Call Dolls** » Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:51 am

Hi,
People are doing quite fine doing that...
They were over doing that....

Post by **Booty Call Dolls** » Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:53 am

but not having to worry about oiling would be nice.

I can tell you, not having will NEVER be a valid option, will it?

siliconelover · Post by **siliconelover** » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:23 am

Booty Call Dolls wrote: I can tell you, not having will NEVER be a valid option, will it?

It will and is.

I don't get the oiling ?

I have had TPE P&A toys, 20 years, never oiled them and they are still around, in one piece.

As I have explained above, my YL is now 18 months old and no problems.

Post by **Booty Call Dolls** » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:34 am

Please provide proof your YL has that Special coating on it.
I have never been told Jinsan factory can do it......
And for you, you alone, it has been, but for others IT HAS NOT.
Luck of the draw
I have TPE dolls I have never oiled.
They are fine, but...
I had no choice on one
I had to use oil on my NO OIL TPE DOLLS because something is not right.
She was made in the extra soft blend so maybe that is not a great combination IMHO
Best,
Jeff

Post by **Booty Call Dolls** » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:54 pm

Additionally, I was told by Don that different care instructions for this type of doll....
Since outer laying is NOT TPE.....
Wash in cold water
Do not oil.....
In my case, the outerlayer came off without washing
Best,
Jeff

Post by **Nescio50** » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:55 pm

skinnygamer wrote:The Marketing Department?

Exactly! Just like Platinum TPE.

Willus · Post by **Willus** » Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:09 pm

My Zoe is JY Platinum TPE. I honestly assumed that "no oil" really just means "less oil" so I'm expecting to need to oil her at some point.

She's less than 3 weeks old though, so I can't really tell you what maintenance is really going to be like.

seagull · Post by **seagull** » Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:10 pm

Anung: Another aspect of doll longevity, the local environment.
Australia has some quite warm temperatures in the summer as opposed to more temperate climates.
TPE stores quite well at room temperature (20c or less) but observably deteriorates at around 60c.
As this is not a sudden transition, the warmer the temperature the faster the destruction of the TPE.
Generally a good TPE blend will last longer in a cooler climate than one with insane days of 40c+.
Which leads to the aircon effect, absolutely hated by some as it dries and irritates sinuses, TPE also has a tendency to dry (leech oil) naturally, also dependent on the blend.

What is good in one location may be less favourable in another.
The TPE blend and method of manufacture also comes into play with the lovely squishy stuff lasting.

Old saying of What you pays for, is what you gets, is still true.
Silicone is far more durable than TPE, but much more expensive, although heaps cheaper than a real person

siliconelover · Post by **siliconelover** » Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:36 pm

Booty Call Dolls wrote:Please provide proof your YL has that Special coating on it.
I have never been told Jinsan factory can do it......
And for you, you alone, it has been, but for others IT HAS NOT.
Luck of the draw
I have TPE dolls I have never oiled.
They are fine, but...

Hi Jeff

I never said my doll has any kind of coating on it.

There is a thread from YL about their no maintenance formula here somewhere dating back about 2 years ago. I will try and find it.

You state that for me and me alone, not oiling my doll has worked but then say you have dolls that you have never oiled and they are fine. This only adds to the confusion.

The title of this thread is NO OIL TPE meaning what exactly ? That the TPE formula has no oil in it OR that you don't need to oil it ???

I have never oiled anything TPE that I have owned in all my 30 years of having these type of toys and now this doll. I think that oil, Vaseline may be caustic to these dolls besides being a mess.

Willus · Post by **Willus** » Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:04 pm

siliconelover wrote:The title of this thread is NO OIL TPE meaning what exactly ? That the TPE formula has no oil in it OR that you don't need to oil it ???

Zoe definitely has oil in her TPE, it leaks a little bit. She isn't allowed to lean on walls any more.

siliconelover · Post by **siliconelover** » Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:59 pm

Willus wrote: Zoe definitely has oil in her TPE, it leaks a little bit. She isn't allowed to lean on walls any more.

Absolutely, I have never seen a TPE product that doesn't leach itself onto whatever it comes in contact with.

Better keep some TSP around to clean those walls if your doll does decide to use them for support again !

My doll soaked the new sheet I had wrapped her in initially. This is a concept about oiling that doesn't make sense to me as the doll is expelling oil, I don't believe that by adding oil 1. it can actually be absorbed and 2. it just means that whatever does superficially get in just adds and speeds up the quantity of oil coming out.