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Mikael123 wrote: For me however, I'm happy with a single correctly placed orifice. My ex rarely let me in the other hole anyway in our time together haha
Hmmm... that would strike me as reason numero uno to have a doll less inhibited in that department, let alone totally non-functional, but hey, different strokes. :thumbs_up:

It turns out the issue is less one of material strength and more one of culture. I think we have (very) slowly impressed upon our friends in China that improvement was badly needed in this department. And to give manufacturers credit, quite a few lately have listened.
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setevoltas wrote:
Mikael123 wrote: For me however, I'm happy with a single correctly placed orifice. My ex rarely let me in the other hole anyway in our time together haha
Hmmm... that would strike me as reason numero uno to have a doll less inhibited in that department, let alone totally non-functional, but hey, different strokes. :thumbs_up:

It turns out the issue is less one of material strength and more one of culture. I think we have (very) slowly impressed upon our friends in China that improvement was badly needed in this department. And to give manufacturers credit, quite a few lately have listened.
I'm pretty sure the bad placement is almost 100% due to fear of tearing/ busting through the wall between the two holes. If not for that reason, then why are they all so out of whack?

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Chinese have the copy-mentality. If they find out something sells, they start producing similar items with flaws as well. WM was very successful in the beginning and other factories started simply copying their dolls not giving any thought for the LHP. My theory is that this is at least some of the reason why we have so many manufacturers with bad LHP.

Good LHP has nothing to do with material thicknesses. I have 100cm doll with both holes, no problem. We also have manufacturers which are good on LHP such as some 6Ye and HR models. SM and IT have also some decent models.

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I think some companies also lack anatomy knowledge, but also the materials/skeleton used for dolls doesnt bend the same way as a human, lacks the movement such as when a woman bends over the pelvic also moves, you dont get that in dolls. So i guess it must be lack of testing and trial and error to get it to a hopefully acceptable standard.

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pup001 wrote:I would rather have a doll with accurate placement even if it means that the anus in unusable for sex. From what I've seen, most dolls can't do anal without instantly tearing, anyway.
Not needed at all to do any penetration. It is true that some or even alot of dolls their cun and butt in different positions don't look good or great enough, the cun's may look too bulgey or short, the butthole is out of place, etc. I'm crazy about females in porn, so I want a doll in position to look just as hot really.

Example, the following lay down panty butt looks amazing, 19 OR OLDER YEAR OLD NAUGHTY KITTY xXx from Twitter-
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I have also an irontech, doggy dont work, on side also not work. And the insert entry is tooo small. Mhhhhh

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Anung Un Rama wrote:
Siliconeman wrote:
As we stated above, it really depends on the model and there some amazing and realistic ones too, have you seen this one for example?
I would think that a seller would like to give a good example. This is the bad example of the anal and vaginal placement. I dag into my porn collection and found poses similar to those represented at your pictures. You can clearly see the problem. This doll will not be a very good doggy style doll. SRSD, if you have good connections to manufacturers you could try to make them improve their products. Fancy ass but unfuckable asshole somewhere unreachable between the cheeks produces unhappy customers.

I censored real images japanese style, I hope those images are DF approved.


Sadly not as we have certain members on a crusade reporting these all the time.

So as per my edit tags....by all means post them but not as attachments, post them as img links behind URL tags, and that is within the RoC and will prevent others reporting posts with human genitals shown as evidently anus are also genitals too so censoring vags with a thin line, does not do the trick enough for attachments hosted on the TDF server. Img links are not!.

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Siliconeman wrote:I have many dolls and so far the best doggy style doll has been a CatDoll 140cm doll. Anatomy is very well designed, she is very enjoyable. As reference I also have WM140, WM161, JY170 and ClimaxDoll160 but out of the box they fail miserably. After some modifications to their lady parts and anus they are acceptable.
Hei, man!

Have you tried oral intercourse with the new CatDoll heads with jaw movement? I have tried the classical heads with steep palate and I really do not get to like it.

Also, do you know if the CatDoll 140 without standing option would stay upright while using a tight shoe/boot?

Thanks in advance.
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How do I know which dolls from which Doll manufacturers are affected by horrible vaginal and anal positions and which are not? Is this still a problem? Are there older dolls with this problem still available?

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Azathoth wrote: Sat Jun 11, 2022 12:15 pm How do I know which dolls from which Doll manufacturers are affected by horrible vaginal and anal positions and which are not? Is this still a problem? Are there older dolls with this problem still available?
There are new dolls which still have this problem.

Here my evaluation on some of the manufacturers:

Absolutely consistently bad LHP manufacturers are:
ClimaxDoll, SE-Doll and AiBeiDoll/Funwestdoll(same factory)

Old dolls bad, some improvement on some of the new models:
SM-Doll

Old dolls bad, great improvements on some of the new dolls manufacturers are:
SiliDoll, WM-Dolls and Irontech doll

LHP is MEH or quite bad manufacturers are:
JY-Doll and YL-Doll

These manufacturers have both excellent and bad LHP dolls new and old models:
6Ye and HR-Doll (same factory)

What to choose then?
If you want slim A-cup, then you could have a look at HR166 / 6Ye 166 (same doll)
If you want very lightweight well built B/C cup 161cm doll I would recommend SiliDoll Sukiwaai NXT+ or some of the 6Ye dolls in this size. I have 6Ye 162B.
If you want big ass, smaller tits BBW doll, then HR165 is your doll
If you want both big ass and big tits BBW, then 6Ye 161J is bigger and HR164BBW and HR166BBW are slightly smaller alternatives.

I have SiliDoll Sukiwaai NXT+, HR166, HR166BBW, 6Ye 162B and 161J

New IrontechDoll 175 looks extremely promising and some of the latest WM models look quite nice. Namely WM159C.

I recommend to try to get proper doggie and missionary pictures before buying a doll.

Siliconemans advice: If a manufacturer does not provide proper doggie pictures, you can assume that her LHP is bad.

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What are the disadvantages of the horrible vaginal and anal positions?

Can you please tell me if the following WM-Dolls are affected by the horrible vaginal and anal positions?

Bodies:

140 cm A-Cup https://--Non-verified Vendor--/wm-dolls/140-cm-body ... brust?c=26

145 cm C-Cup https://--Non-verified Vendor--/wm-dolls/145-cm-body ... xdoll?c=27

145 cm B-Cup https://www.dolloro.de/wm-doll-real-dol ... ls/sw10173

157 cm B-Cup https://www.beerdoll.com/tpe-sex-doll-line.html

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Azathoth wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:01 am What are the disadvantages of the horrible vaginal and anal positions?
With a bad LHP you will not be able to enter her vagina from behind in doggy position. (You might be able to enter her rectum, but not always)
With a bad LHP you will not be able to enter her rectum in her lying flat on her tummy position.
Azathoth wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:01 am Can you please tell me if the following WM-Dolls are affected by the horrible vaginal and anal positions?
Bodies:
140 cm A-Cup https://--Non-verified Vendor--/wm-dolls/140-cm-body/74/wm-dolls-140-cm-body-angel-mit-kleiner-brust?c=26
145 cm C-Cup https://--Non-verified Vendor--/wm-dolls/145-cm-body/101/wm-doll-145-cm-body-c-cup-liebespuppe-sexdoll?c=27
145 cm B-Cup https://www.dolloro.de/wm-doll-real-dol ... ls/sw10173
157 cm B-Cup https://www.beerdoll.com/tpe-sex-doll-line.html
I think those are older WM models with quite bad Love Hole Placements. If you can accept mostly missionary style sex then these dolls should be fine. Those are not fit for doggy.

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Anyone remember these are adult toys :whistle:
And trying to mimic all of the variations of real female anatomy in that particular area to suit all of the potential customer's preferences is well beyond the capacity of any manufacturer :deadhorse:

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Many thanks for your response.
Can you then recommend smaller or lighter dolls, preferably from WM-Dolls, that do not have this error?
I would like to have more than just missionary style. And doggy-style should actually be possible with the doll.

So, what about these dolls: 156cm C-Cup and 157cm B-Cup

https://reallovesexdolls.com/5ft1-156c-chloe/

https://--Non-verified Vendor--/wm-dolls/156-cm-body ... puppe?c=47

https://--Non-verified Vendor--/wm-dolls/157-cm-body ... puppe?c=51

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seagull wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:18 am Anyone remember these are adult toys :whistle:
And trying to mimic all of the variations of real female anatomy in that particular area to suit all of the potential customer's preferences is well beyond the capacity of any manufacturer :deadhorse:
Imagine the holes were on sliders so you could adjust them to your liking. :lol:

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