A trip about Chinese sex doll factories

[Coeros]

WM Doll V4.0 skeleton.
This is the latest news seen in Celesdolls, but WM has not announced more news. According to Celesdolls, it’s most likely a ball-jointed skeleton similar to Zelex’s recent EXP Skeleton. Ball-jointed skeletons seem to be the next big trend.

Yeah but these companies need to develop ways for these joints to either auto tighten over time or a way to get in there and
adjust them in a simple way to tighten them up if they start to loosen over time.
The problem with older friction based U joints like most dolls have is they tend to have washers between the joint sections and
even if they do not the metal materials used is often too soft and compresses or the friction wears the washers or metal parts touching
each other and this results in the joints tensions loosening over time.
If a joint was created that auto tightened or just a different type of joint like these ball joints that had very long friction life this would be
a HUGE improvement for the future skeletons

Hi, this is indeed an area for improvement. Now some factory dolls start to use ball joint bones such as zelex's EXP. But the specific effect is not very clear to me at present, because I have not seen a lot of feedback from users.

Agree. Beside that the reversed U shape skeleton hip section needs revision and inventive design as well. It can not be that with all the LHP issues no better solution can be found. Also countering gaping and tightness related issues in that area.

This is also a very important point. I remember seeing similar discussions last year, but I haven't heard a good solution yet.

[Michaelangelo]

WM Doll V4.0 skeleton.
This is the latest news seen in Celesdolls, but WM has not announced more news. According to Celesdolls, it’s most likely a ball-jointed skeleton similar to Zelex’s recent EXP Skeleton. Ball-jointed skeletons seem to be the next big trend.

Yeah but these companies need to develop ways for these joints to either auto tighten over time or a way to get in there and
adjust them in a simple way to tighten them up if they start to loosen over time.
The problem with older friction based U joints like most dolls have is they tend to have washers between the joint sections and
even if they do not the metal materials used is often too soft and compresses or the friction wears the washers or metal parts touching
each other and this results in the joints tensions loosening over time.
If a joint was created that auto tightened or just a different type of joint like these ball joints that had very long friction life this would be
a HUGE improvement for the future skeletons

100% agree with john here. It's only thanks to the efforts of forum members (Shigowa most recently) that we even know how to go in and tighten a loose nut or whatever. Auto-tightening or whatever would save a lot of dolls from being disposed of, I suspect, for those who can't/won't go in with a scalpel and wrench to get the job done. Or as you say, john, the joints need to be spec'ed to last as long as the TPE, since it's the joints that often fail first.

[-Ragnar66-]

WM Doll V4.0 skeleton.
This is the latest news seen in Celesdolls, but WM has not announced more news. According to Celesdolls, it’s most likely a ball-jointed skeleton similar to Zelex’s recent EXP Skeleton. Ball-jointed skeletons seem to be the next big trend.

Yeah but these companies need to develop ways for these joints to either auto tighten over time or a way to get in there and
adjust them in a simple way to tighten them up if they start to loosen over time.
The problem with older friction based U joints like most dolls have is they tend to have washers between the joint sections and
even if they do not the metal materials used is often too soft and compresses or the friction wears the washers or metal parts touching
each other and this results in the joints tensions loosening over time.
If a joint was created that auto tightened or just a different type of joint like these ball joints that had very long friction life this would be
a HUGE improvement for the future skeletons

Hi, this is indeed an area for improvement. Now some factory dolls start to use ball joint bones such as zelex's EXP. But the specific effect is not very clear to me at present, because I have not seen a lot of feedback from users.

Agree. Beside that the reversed U shape skeleton hip section needs revision and inventive design as well. It can not be that with all the LHP issues no better solution can be found. Also countering gaping and tightness related issues in that area.

This is also a very important point. I remember seeing similar discussions last year, but I haven't heard a good solution yet.

I think mfrs should look at what human evolution did last few million years. Nature knows what works and what not usually. So grab the main principles, then simplify and adapt for doll usage. Can´t be that hard, when seperating the LH area and integrate it as different part into the molding process. Casting shells and skeleton needs adaptions accordingly. Maybe easier said than done, but.... what do I know.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/ful ... 2/ca.23508

[King Solo]

That U shaped (lazy engineering) nonsense allows manufacturers an infinite number of ways to screw up the LH positioning of the doll ..... which is exactly what they want. (Don't want to be limited as to where they're able place their uniquely positioned LH's!)

While a true pelvis like structure probably has them worried that it'll break and collapse in on itself, under the weight of some careless overweight owner. Plus, it'll force them into having to follow the rules and dimensions of the pelvis floor. Which means, no more lower tummy vaginas for dude's too lazy to spread and lift up the dolls legs for proper natural access.

[Coeros]

WM Doll V4.0 skeleton.
This is the latest news seen in Celesdolls, but WM has not announced more news. According to Celesdolls, it’s most likely a ball-jointed skeleton similar to Zelex’s recent EXP Skeleton. Ball-jointed skeletons seem to be the next big trend.

Yeah but these companies need to develop ways for these joints to either auto tighten over time or a way to get in there and
adjust them in a simple way to tighten them up if they start to loosen over time.
The problem with older friction based U joints like most dolls have is they tend to have washers between the joint sections and
even if they do not the metal materials used is often too soft and compresses or the friction wears the washers or metal parts touching
each other and this results in the joints tensions loosening over time.
If a joint was created that auto tightened or just a different type of joint like these ball joints that had very long friction life this would be
a HUGE improvement for the future skeletons

Hi, this is indeed an area for improvement. Now some factory dolls start to use ball joint bones such as zelex's EXP. But the specific effect is not very clear to me at present, because I have not seen a lot of feedback from users.

Agree. Beside that the reversed U shape skeleton hip section needs revision and inventive design as well. It can not be that with all the LHP issues no better solution can be found. Also countering gaping and tightness related issues in that area.

This is also a very important point. I remember seeing similar discussions last year, but I haven't heard a good solution yet.

I think mfrs should look at what human evolution did last few million years. Nature knows what works and what not usually. So grab the main principles, then simplify and adapt for doll usage. Can´t be that hard, when seperating the LH area and integrate it as different part into the molding process. Casting shells and skeleton needs adaptions accordingly. Maybe easier said than done, but.... what do I know.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/ful ... 2/ca.23508

Thanks for sharing this video, it's so vivid!

[Coeros]

WMDOLLS New factory Video

A strong brand, a strong factory. - WMDOLLS.mp4

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[Luiskjr]

WMDOLLS New factory Video

A strong brand, a strong factory. - WMDOLLS.mp4

Would like to know from Coeros since you get knews from manufacturers, which one is thinking or starting to consider a speaker for AI interaction

At this stage just a bluetooth rechargeable speaker inside her mouth down at the bak of throat for models that have ROS and the mouth is left half open would be enough. The AI is being developped by third parties.

In this case doll wont be suitable for oral sex but those who prefer interaction wont mind

Coeros has promoted a device used as a collar (which i dont think its a good idea) and dont know how this idea is evolving. I believe speaker should be smaller to fit inside at the bak of the mouth recharged by the same mini-USB used for heating that some ROS dolls already include

Any news?

[Michaelangelo]

WMDOLLS New factory Video

A strong brand, a strong factory. - WMDOLLS.mp4

Would like to know from Coeros since you get knews from manufacturers, which one is thinking or starting to consider a speaker for AI interaction

At this stage just a bluetooth rechargeable speaker inside her mouth down at the bak of throat for models that have ROS and the mouth is left half open would be enough. The AI is being developped by third parties.

In this case doll wont be suitable for oral sex but those who prefer interaction wont mind

Coeros has promoted a device used as a collar (which i dont think its a good idea) and dont know how this idea is evolving. I believe speaker should be smaller to fit inside at the bak of the mouth recharged by the same mini-USB used for heating that some ROS dolls already include

Any news?

Good point, with the speed LLMs are developing now plus models that actually run on relatively normal PCs, it's only a matter of time before this becomes possible. Exciting times.

[Coeros]

WMDOLLS New factory Video

A strong brand, a strong factory. - WMDOLLS.mp4

Would like to know from Coeros since you get knews from manufacturers, which one is thinking or starting to consider a speaker for AI interaction

At this stage just a bluetooth rechargeable speaker inside her mouth down at the bak of throat for models that have ROS and the mouth is left half open would be enough. The AI is being developped by third parties.

In this case doll wont be suitable for oral sex but those who prefer interaction wont mind

Coeros has promoted a device used as a collar (which i dont think its a good idea) and dont know how this idea is evolving. I believe speaker should be smaller to fit inside at the bak of the mouth recharged by the same mini-USB used for heating that some ROS dolls already include

Any news?

Good point, with the speed LLMs are developing now plus models that actually run on relatively normal PCs, it's only a matter of time before this becomes possible. Exciting times.

There should be some brands secretly researching to install AI speaker directly on the doll head, so that the user experience will be better. Looking forward to a brand that can successfully produce AI doll heads next year.

[Coeros]

Super soft vagina, super image video! --Sinodoll

Sino1.mp4

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[Coeros]

Dolls with Moving legs
It looks fun and would be great for shooting videos. However, its actual use in reality needs to be evaluated.

Moving legs.mp4

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[Coeros]

The Soft-Max model S167 from Sinodoll is another groundbreaking softness innovation following the 'Pro-soft' version. It offers a 'Soft-Max' level that is 20% softer than the 'Pro-soft'.
Although the sneakers in some of the photos look a bit odd, it doesn't take away from how truly beautiful she is.

Sino.mp4

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[Luiskjr]

Very impressive!
Beautiful Sinodoll models

[Michaelangelo]

Lovely doll. And lovely sneakers -- Mira would love another pair of super hi-tops.

[ILuvFemsNlingerie]

I hope they post a factory video sto show more detail of the soft-max feature.
That video was a bit to flashy and quick IMO