a oral mouth option on ds doll

timetraveler1 · Post by **timetraveler1** » Mon May 27, 2013 1:59 pm

after seeing the anus video demonstrating how a larger dildo can penetrate the anus , i don't see why ds doll maker doesn't make more heads with oral capability . instead of just one head .
maybe ds company can chime in on this question .

XiaoBing · Post by **XiaoBing** » Wed May 29, 2013 12:07 pm

I have read from chinese forum. Because DSdoll design philosophy centered around beauty, and oral function is actually not difficult to make/achieve. But because adding oral function may cause the mouth, to be bigger? Losing the beauty characteristic of the head. Kathy is the only one that found the balance of ...big & small? Just right size? Something like that.

Anyway it is not recommended for oral. Because silicon mouth, like insert. can tear easily after serveral usage. and face , especially mouth is very important to the beauty of the doll..

For insert, u can replace. without expensive price. For head, it is very expensive.

So, it is a good idea not to have oral function actually, keke.

Filch · Post by **Filch** » Wed May 29, 2013 5:58 pm

I like how xiaobing explained with economics.
Why not just make mouth inserts? The head will have an expandable cavity as it may house the insert that contains the lips, teeth, tongue etc...the same way the vaginal insert is.

timetraveler1 · Post by **timetraveler1** » Thu May 30, 2013 10:36 am

Filch, has an excellant idea about the mouth insert , maybe this would solve the problem , also another point i was making , yes the one doll head has the right look not to big not to small but why not more then one head with different faces ?
the mouth insert though that Filch mentioned might be something the company should look into creating for customers!

XiaoBing · Post by **XiaoBing** » Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:07 am

Haha, I tink it takes long time to come up with a new head. Only 1 head with perfect balance maybe shows how hard it is to find the balance. Or maybe because oral is not recommended, so most of the time during design it is not incorporated as a must have?

barkman · Post by **barkman** » Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:56 am

I've bought that head you mentioned. The length of that head's throat is around 14 centimeters. I think it's too short for you white guys, you may damage that little mouth if you try to squeeze your large cannon in it.

timetraveler1 · Post by **timetraveler1** » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:48 am

barkman you wrote : I think it's too short for you white guys, you may damage that little mouth if you try to squeeze your large cannon in it.

A HORSE IS A HORSE OF COURSE .. THE WONDERFUL MR.ED !!

XiaoBing · Post by **XiaoBing** » Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:22 pm

For real woman, the mouth is about 13 cm too, right?

timetraveler1 · Post by **timetraveler1** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:08 pm

I don't know , i have seen some porn actresses swallow a monster size completely , now that's talent , must have been a sword swallow-er in a former life !

gtfan · Post by **gtfan** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:19 am

Received my Kayla this past week from Steven and she's been great. The order process, creation, and shipment took about 3 weeks total, wonderful to deal with a company that's so responsive.

As for the oral option, not having it as a feature for Kayla was fine at the time and thought it wasn't necessary. Well, let's just say after a couple of days with Kayla, I was curious if she could be modded.

I checked out the offical ds forums with google translate and noticed that the roof of Kathy's mouth served as space to be occupied, so to speak. While Kayla and the others didn't have it, what if I opened up some space with a drill?

Took a deep breath and drilled with a 3/4" bit from the mouth opening through to the back of the throat, just below the round plate for head attachment. I didn't realize underneath the layer of silicone was foam. It's somewhat unsettling to see a visible hole from the opening of her mouth, all the way to the neck.

With an Xacto knife, made two incisions near the hole so it's now a pullable flap that exposes the lower jaw foam from the back of the chin. Turning the head upside down, I can now access the area close to where the neck would attach. With a different drill bit, the hole was expanded at an upward angle so it'd be level with the nose, but not quite near it horizontally. I wasn't adventurous enough to keep it going beyond the nose. As it stands now, her mouth's got more than twice the depth than before. Not really useful, but it's there if ever needed.

Next will be to get a silicone solution to cover up the exposed foam. Originally tried PlastiDip for a quick fix, but it is not ideal. Have ordered sil proxy to repair a chin tear when I pulled that flap. She also has a small tear on each side of her mouth which is expected, since she wasn't designed for oral.

Poor Kayla, she 's just arrived from a long trip and has to endure all of these procedures barely a week into her stay.

Star88 · Post by **Star88** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:21 pm

timetraveler1 wrote:after seeing the anus video demonstrating how a larger dildo can penetrate the anus , i don't see why ds doll maker doesn't make more heads with oral capability . instead of just one head .
maybe ds company can chime in on this question .

Which video is this you speak of?

Star88 · Post by **Star88** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:28 pm

Nevrer mind, I found the video over on the DS site

Filch · Post by **Filch** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:10 pm

timetraveler1 wrote:I don't know , i have seen some porn actresses swallow a monster size completely , now that's talent , must have been a sword swallow-er in a former life !

Pornstars like real women have throats. Dolls do not. If only doll makers pushed the neck bolt back and allowed for a throat cavity then 1 size fits all.

The only way for use to control the manufacturers is with our buying power. If we only buy heads with oral then they will make a new product according to our demands to get us to buy from them.

gtfan · Post by **gtfan** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:09 pm

If they made a Kayla head with an oral option it would probably be their #1 seller. Trying to mod her existing head has been tough, vacuuming out the foam bits, shaping the foam, and now awaiting for Ecoflex 20 (to cover the foam) for results that are probably not going to be ideal when it's all said and done.

gtfan · Post by **gtfan** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:22 pm

XiaoBing wrote:

Anyway it is not recommended for oral. Because silicon mouth, like insert. can tear easily after serveral usage. and face , especially mouth is very important to the beauty of the doll..

For insert, u can replace. without expensive price. For head, it is very expensive.

So, it is a good idea not to have oral function actually, keke.

The mouth is perfect for the doll so we have to deal with some tradeoffs (beauty vs. function). It's true that the mouth tears very easily, even when propping the doll's mouth with a 3/4" pvc connector to work on the mod, there was a fissure on each side of her hips. Fortunately, it's not noticeable until her mouth is opened, then the cracks reveal themselves. While there's a silicone adhesive that can fix it, the limits of her mouth opening seem breached too easily even at light usage.