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Just wanted to share my first experience with dolls.

I've been using Fleshlights for years, but wanted something more realistic. The photos of some of these high-end dolls are just brilliant - like looking into the future. I decided to go for a mid-tier doll ($2k range) to try out this hobby. Got a DS doll 145.

'In the flesh' the doll is a work of art, the face is eerily realistic. The toes for some reason also feel terribly real. DS doesn't offer built-in, so I was finally able to get the long insert in place and try the doll out.

Have been using the doll for a week and will admit I'm totally underwhelmed. Wanted to share my experience with other potential doll owners.

- The doll was smaller than I expected, I knew 145 was small - but when you're having sex with it, the head is pretty far down below you (can't look in it's face)
- The doll was heavier than I expected. I had read they were heavy, but until you pick it up to move it - you just don't realize.
- I had visions of positioning the doll for dog-style and ass-in-air etc. but this is really quite involved... The toes had no real wires and I was constantly afraid I would damage the doll. You are ALWAYS in a state of awareness of the hands and fingers as well. Positioning the doll in anything other than straight missionary was not easy and my sexual interest would often flag.
- The insert was huge (width) - nothing like my Fleshlights, I felt like I was fucking a black hole. (and my cock is pretty large girth)
- The silicone is incredibly soft, but the innards of the doll are very hard. Imagine taking an inch of Fleshlight material and wrapping it around a hard plastic object you have in your house - a speaker, or computer, an elliptical.. that's essentially what it feels like when you fuck the doll. That inch of softness is only 'real' to look at and touch - but when using the doll it quickly vanishes.
- My model had pretty big / perky breasts. These were fun to pinch with my fingers but terrible when having sex, (when you lay down on the doll). I ended up getting really sore abs.
- The top of the vagina ripped (half inch) the 6th time I had sex with it, I am by NO MEANS rough with the doll, just trying to have missionary with it.
- The range of motion of the legs is silly, you can spread them, but not near the range a real girl has (see rip above)... Until dolls can actually mimic spreading their legs like a real woman - then they're just toys.
- The smell was strong for the first 3 days then went away
- There was a tiny bit of white mesh reinforcement inside the vagina - however it was almost a full inch back into the canal - not where the vag normally tears, pointless - and it wasn't glued in well.

Conclusion
The doll while hyper realistic to look at - was not realistic in the slightest bit to have sex with. Even with lights very low, and looking at porn on the computer, the feeling was just terribly 'doll like'.. Maybe with the 8k dolls it's different - but that hard inner core just felt like I was fucking a shoe box or something.. Like I had taken a mannequin from Macy's and wrapped it in silicone.. When you're laying on it you're laying on a hard brick.. It's difficult to explain, but it's not a very sexy feeling.

The sexual experience did not feel anything like a real girl. Obviously no responsiveness, but the fact the hips can't move and legs can't spread correctly means the vagina is never really in the correct position. Just didn't feel natural at all.

Honestly, the Fleshlight and some porn gave a much more satisfying experience. A waste of $2,300. Or, optimistically - an education.

I'll check back in in 5 or 10 years and see what's new. But surely the doll experience was not for me - as is, today.
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Re: Sex with a doll is not like sex with a human...

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ilikedolls123 wrote: SNIP

And for both the Real Doll and the Torso Legs, the vagina angle was pointed upwards instead of downwards. I guess this was to make room for the anal canal, but it made sex very awkward with the Torso Leg and impossible with the RD.
Would you give up the anal feature to have a better vagina in the doll?
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wow, i thought i would get bashed for my non-positive review. thanks so much for keeping an open mind!

a few more thoughts.

yes, i did want the strawberry blonde wig (and ended up ordering 3 more wigs) - but when she arrived with brown hair i was completely satisfied. i can not say enough good about the looks of the doll - she is beautiful. there are no flaws in the aesthetic. i think the manufacturer has this down nearly perfect.

my main issue was not the softness of the silicone (which is as soft as a fleshlight) - but that the inner body when you're laying on it is like laying on a log. it is not easy or terribly pleasurable to fuck a log. ;)
i actually found it painful in my upper stomach and chest to have sex with it.

TPE might have softer innards? I was on the fence - but went with silicon because of the mold issue that is often brought up, and the faces offered by DS.

after the tear in vagina i decided to stop using the doll until the sil-poxy arrived, and instead thought she would make a good 'cuddle mate' in bed, i tried to hold her while sleeping and again i just didn't find it natural - i'd wake up other side of bed.

weirdly - when i'm with a real girl i often close my eyes during sex, imagining something or other - but with the doll i kept my eyes open trying to look at dolls face and eyes - anything to make it seem more lifelike...

i did try her on cowgirl, but this particular doll had a loose vagina and it just didn't work for me. i also tried anal - DS has a very small anal cavity (maybe 3")?

in the end it was simply physically uncomfortable to fuck the doll.

before my purchase i did a LOT of reading on this site - and weirdly i ran into several threads where guys claimed that having sex with their doll was as good or better than the real thing. i have had some lousy lays in my day - but i guarantee you even the WORST real girl, the very very worst - the kind that just lays there disinterested and playing cellphone games or painting their nails while your shagging - the gal telling you to hurry up, or that has TLS (tight leg syndrome), is about a mile above the doll.

unfortunately my doll budget is spent - so TPE will have to wait. she's now relegated to the back room with all my other unrealized projects. if i ever pass away and someone goes back in that room - what a surprise they'll get!!!
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mike-fish wrote:Just purchased a doll but not received yet and there are interesting comments here that a I had thought about.

I still wanted one so that I can dress and set up different posses and, using the doll to get stimulated for sex. Something I can not do with a real person.

I'm sure that the doll will be a great hobby, dressing and photographing without actual penetrative sex.

It is only a doll so can not be compared to a human so why do some people try to do so?

A doll provides so much other stuff you can't do with a real girl so be realistic and enjoy.

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without a doubt - if you want a mannequin that you can dress up and pose - perfect. for me - like i explained, i was just looking to 'upgrade my fleshlight' - i wanted something that i could roll over and screw at moments notice. so i was more interested in its sexual performance than posing and dressing up.

sure you will enjoy yours. ;)
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I fought with tearing vagina opening too with my DS145 but it stopped tearing after I fixed it few times. There's slight tear at the bottom of the opening but I just let it be as it hasn't gone any worse. And I agree that positions you can use this doll are quite limited, doggy style is awkward and about only ones I use are cowgirl and missonary/w legs up. But I guess that's enough for me for now :D I guess TPE doll would be much better experience in bed but higher level of maintenance and number of potential problems would freak me out.

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I usually do not spread legs of my DS145+ wider than about 70 cm in missionary. To get adequate opening, I rotate her legs outwards and place them slightly bent in knees. The right technique of rotating legs is similar to rotating wrists.

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Well, let me preface by saying that I've lived in part of the world where prostitution is legal (or at least ignored) - like Germany, Thailand, PI, Indonesia, China etc. Sex with a real girl is always a text away for 30 euro. Or out to the bars to find someone.

I've had thousands of lovers. But after awhile it gets boring (everything does). I got tired of hitting the bars, drinking, finding the 'right' girl, then taking her home, chatting, watching TV and maybe getting okay sex, or maybe ending up frustrated. All the games that come along with it.... meh.. Several of my older friends feel the same way - just too much trouble when you can pull out a Fleshlight twice a day and be done with it. Back to real life. Sometimes you don't want a lot of human interaction, you just want to get-off.

The doll was just a test or trial at another solution. I thought it would be a better Fleshlight. I like submissive girls, and I have an active imagination - so it should have worked. Again - really the issue was that it was just uncomfortable to have sex with it - the doll is hard inside, and the vagina is oddly placed and too big, and the legs wouldn't spread (yes I rotated them and bent the knees - it still tore).

I did order the longer insert from DS. I believe the normal one is 5.5 inches, and the longer one is nearly 9 inches. My dick is about 7" and i didn't want to break through the short one... I don't know if the longer one is wider (my girth is pretty big) - but it just felt terribly loose to me (almost no sensation). A normal fleshlight (no texture) is comfortably snug by comparison.

In the future, if I ever take another stab at it - will look at the TPE dolls. I would strongly encourage new buyers that JUST want missionary type sex - to not be lured by the attractiveness of silicone and instead go for the usefulness of TPE.
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Buddha Baggins wrote:I'm about to buy my first doll and would like to thank you for a detailed and honest review. I still plan on going with a 145cm silicone doll for my first girl. My only question, does DS really only do inserts? I thought they had a built-in option.
Yes, they only offer inserts. No built in.
I would strongly encourage you to look at the video that shows the difference between TPE and silicone.
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rubherkitty wrote:
itvman wrote:The surprising thing is that we are always told silicone does not tear as easily as tpe, and yet here we have it tearing after just six uses.
This seems to be a issue with DS dolls that use a insert. Often tears at the top.
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i wish this issue had been addressed more readily in the DS forum, it would have caused me to go for a different manufacturer. However DS always gets good marks.

The material is very (very) thin at the top, and the lackluster 'reinforcement' is about an inch back from the opening - so no help at all at this tear point.

When you rotate and spread the legs you can see the material is really stretching. after my 2nd time with the doll there was the smallest most minute 'nic' at the top, i didn't think it would get worse as so small - but by the sixth time have a significant tear. something that costs 2,300 shouldn't break in 6 uses. i certainly was not hard on the doll - if anything, i babied it.

my plan is to wait for the sil-poxy, fix the tear, plug the hole with original cap and just sit it in a chair to scare girls when i bring them over to the house... lol.. certainly will never shag it again. can't really dispose of the doll - not sure what the trash guy would think of doll like that sitting in the bin - lol.
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