Regarding Finger repairs...

Tyr · Post by **Tyr** » Tue May 15, 2018 9:19 am

A shoutout to all of the members who have undertaken open hand surgery on their girls. How are your repairs holding up? Is there a consensus on the best type of replacement wire to use? Have any of you any feedback post repair, of materials that didn't work, or with experience, would not last? I am thinking of multi strand sheathed wire for Ami. 14 or 12 gauge. It'll be a little while yet but there's
nothing like being prepared.

Tyr

Dollyman25442 · Post by **Dollyman25442** » Tue May 15, 2018 10:55 am

Tyr wrote:A shoutout to all of the members who have undertaken open hand surgery on their girls. How are your repairs holding up? Is there a consensus on the best type of replacement wire to use? Have any of you any feedback post repair, of materials that didn't work, or with experience, would not last? I am thinking of multi strand sheathed wire for Ami. 14 or 12 gauge. It'll be a little while yet but there's
nothing like being prepared.

Tyr

Screw wires altogether.
This mod will be available soon. Fully articulated too.

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RGC_0767 · Post by **RGC_0767** » Tue May 15, 2018 4:27 pm

Tyr wrote:A shoutout to all of the members who have undertaken open hand surgery on their girls. How are your repairs holding up? Is there a consensus on the best type of replacement wire to use? Have any of you any feedback post repair, of materials that didn't work, or with experience, would not last? I am thinking of multi strand sheathed wire for Ami. 14 or 12 gauge. It'll be a little while yet but there's
nothing like being prepared.

Tyr

Go with something that will absorb blows.(if you want) You can create your own design. If one looks at doll joints. Knees, hips, elbows. the more crap to come loose or break on these dolls the more it's no fun to own. Joints in fingers will not be exempt from problems. Worth a shot I suppose
14 gauge is heavy. I tried it did not like it. It's about experimenting.
It's all about what you want as her master!! nice grip? look good? durable? all the above? yeah

I just did a simple fix. Her hand is holding up a couple months now. Twisted the digits like pretzels, no problems. Absorption is what I was shooting for, Bullseye!!
And yes, I've treated her hand like shit, just to see... She's double jointed now. funny how the nails stay on when stress testing.

Really do not care if she does not grip stuff easily. Did not want to be fixing 'em every month.

Post by **winterwarBo** » Tue May 15, 2018 10:34 pm

Stiff fingers are like a mixed bag good yet bad.. I like her having the ability to actually hold stuff in her hand and be able to get more natural looking pose without having them look like a Alien from X-Files.

Having removable digits from the palm plate makes the possibilities endless. Janie hasn't broken any wires since I did the surgery I did have to retighten some of the set screws but I was able to poke through the TPE and feel around for the set screw without cutting her open again.

My only criticism of the RC airplane jointed fingers that Dollyman is coming up with is lack of side to side motion in the metacarpos. You really need that if you want realistic dexterity. Otherwise it's kind of a waste in my honest opinion. It is a great idea. But it just needs to be perfected in a couple areas to be a really perfect fix.

Using solid romex her hands are far more durable then the crap she came with. Janie's hands are no longer a floppy mess. Kat needs her hands repaired next. CrazyCajun really gave me a lot of good advise. No two of these dolls are really "The Same" they all are similar but with some variations in manufacturing. Some help and some can make you curse like all hell.

RGC_0767 · Post by **RGC_0767** » Wed May 16, 2018 9:53 am

winterwarBo wrote:Stiff fingers are like a mixed bag good yet bad.. I like her having the ability to actually hold stuff in her hand and be able to get more natural looking pose without having them look like a Alien from X-Files.

Having removable digits from the palm plate makes the possibilities endless. Janie hasn't broken any wires since I did the surgery I did have to retighten some of the set screws but I was able to poke through the TPE and feel around for the set screw without cutting her open again.

My only criticism of the RC airplane jointed fingers that Dollyman is coming up with is lack of side to side motion in the metacarpos. You really need that if you want realistic dexterity. Otherwise it's kind of a waste in my honest opinion. It is a great idea. But it just needs to be perfected in a couple areas to be a really perfect fix.

Using solid romex her hands are far more durable then the crap she came with. Janie's hands are no longer a floppy mess. Kat needs her hands repaired next. CrazyCajun really gave me a lot of good advise. No two of these dolls are really "The Same" they all are similar but with some variations in manufacturing. Some help and some can make you curse like all hell.

You got me thinking again... don't do that!!! LOL kidding... This shit may help too. Or something like it. Of course not sure how durable it is.
If it's spring steel this stuff will not break easily, but posing would be a pain

Hard to bend.

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WhataTimeToBeAlive · Post by **WhataTimeToBeAlive** » Wed May 16, 2018 12:44 pm

Dollyman25442 wrote:This mod will be available soon.

Those look amazing!

Available where?

Post by **winterwarBo** » Wed May 16, 2018 6:12 pm

She wanted to watch tv again so who am I to argue. She could never support the weight of this remote control with her old hands.

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RGC_0767 · Post by **RGC_0767** » Wed May 16, 2018 6:53 pm

winterwarBo wrote:She wanted to watch tv again so who am I to argue. She could never support the weight of this remote control with her old hands.

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When you first completed the job, I remember her with the handgun.

Proof again, want a job done good, do it yourself!!

Post by **winterwarBo** » Wed May 16, 2018 9:24 pm

She keeps one under her pillow. I think it’s to keep Kat and Quinn away..

grimreefer24601 · Post by **grimreefer24601** » Wed May 16, 2018 9:44 pm

CrazyCajun, and I were working with 18 gauge wire doubled and twisted. That's the best solution so far I've seen. But you can't get plates from James anymore.

Dollyman's fingers look like they have potential once he's perfected them.

They still need hand plates to work. I have not seen anyone making hand plates yet. You can make them yourself of course. CC made MaryJane and Becka's plates.

RGC_0767 · Post by **RGC_0767** » Wed May 16, 2018 9:46 pm

winterwarBo wrote:She keeps one under her pillow. I think it’s to keep Kat and Quinn away..

Careful you do not have her shoot you. Imagine that story on the news. "Man Repairs doll fingers, only to get shot by trigger happy doll" LOL

Tyr · Post by **Tyr** » Thu May 17, 2018 4:10 am

I've been toying with the idea of a 3d printed skeletal hand, based around m3 screws and nuts. I have a prototype joint in mind but haven't got around to printing it yet. Just been busy with life stuff and besides, it's stopped raining here at last so the bikes are getting a bit of love too!

RGC_0767 · Post by **RGC_0767** » Thu May 17, 2018 7:00 pm

Tyr wrote:I've been toying with the idea of a 3d printed skeletal hand, based around m3 screws and nuts. I have a prototype joint in mind but haven't got around to printing it yet. Just been busy with life stuff and besides, it's stopped raining here at last so the bikes are getting a bit of love too!

Hey if you can make a go of it, and have the hardware to try.

Myself am drawing up ideas for ball bearing wrist and ball bearing fingers. Parts needed on the way. Hand made hands.
No screws, nuts in this finger idea, if I can help it. I'm not keen on plastic fingers, but anything too strong, and may as well just use wires.