not for cuddling ?

[anataus]

Yes TB are soft, but you might as well just get a pillow! They are like a large teddy bear.
Nothing like a TPE dolls or PS doll;however, ultra light and they can give you a bear hug and wrap their arms around you.
IMHO, just not as good looking as other dolls and before you ask, yes, I owned one before.
Jeff

Frankly speaking I find this kind of answers rather annoying

I said from the very beginning that I was mainly interested in cuddling , why did you not suggest from the very beginning to go for a teddy babe ?
Do you hate to admit that silicone dolls are actually more resistent than TPE dolls or what ?

I would like to know the opinion of serious members, possibly , the ones who own both TPE and silicono dolls

As far as the resistance to mechanical stesses is concerned :

a) Silicone is better than TPE
b) TPE is better than Silicone
c) About the same

Thanks in advance for helping me to make the right choice

[optical delusion]

short(ish) version. For the skeleton that does vary from manufacturers. Take wm dolls. Old frame which has well documented problems. But the tpe is great. Not the stinky oilly thing that you hear about. I believe that stereotype may have come from earliest versions of tpe or people buying from dodgy vendors and being sent counterfeit dolls

My sanhui. The skeleton feels a lot sturdier. Finger wires 2 to 3 times thicker than the wm and overall more robust....but as with softer silicon it has additives to keep it that way. These additives do have a smell and do slightly seep out,so that is a lot like tpe but it does get better with time also

So the materials are about the same..tpe is more refined these days and less oily and and less smelly. But inert silicon that was as hard as a rock is now more softer and supple but does now have smell and oils.

Maybe stay away from wm dolls if your after tpe.i do like the look of irontech dolls. They seem to have already incorporated advancements to the frame others are only just starting too. And for silicon my only experience is sanhui and i am happy with its sturdiness compared to my wm. i love my wm but wouldn't by one again until the much requested improvements to the frame have been made.

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as for the softness of the sanhui....difficult to answer. it has variable softness throughout the body it seems the design was to make areas that are seen to take more stress are hardened while others are softer. and it is not dependent on the depth of the silicon or how close to the fame that influence it,


for example(using wm tpe as the baseline) the lower back is slightly firmer but around the shoulders which would bear more weight and strain it is quite firm..maybe too firm when spooning. above the shoulders and into the neck lt actually softens to as soft as tpe and probably even softer on the neck,

heck the breasts are kinda the same. firm on the outside edges to make sure it stays attached, normal on the inside and bottom and soft on the top. and the soft stomach option is just amazing. its only a small area and may seem pointless...but i would get again...and the textured skin...that is also a weird little feature that i would definitely get again. adds a subtle feeling which i kinda miss when touching the wm skin

so...not a straight answer and the variable softness may be a plus or minus to each indivual

[argo1]

hmm... i thinking to get a 6YE 165F. However i undecided because from photo, 6YE seems still incorrect located vagina and ass.

Does anyone weight the 165 doll? I wonder is it really 36kg with head.

Also can 6YE doll use some head from WMDolls? That's will be big advantage if it is possible. May be an adapter?

[6YeDoll]

hmm... i thinking to get a 6YE 165F. However i undecided because from photo, 6YE seems still incorrect located vagina and ass.

Does anyone weight the 165 doll? I wonder is it really 36kg with head.

Also can 6YE doll use some head from WMDolls? That's will be big advantage if it is possible. May be an adapter?

165F gets correct placement

yes it is 36kg with head

you can use head from WM but we con't encourage because the skin tone can't match

[Dr Dollinger]

Hi anataus,

Please don't blame jeff, for given not the right answer what maybe is the best solution for cuddling.
This is a TPE manufacturer section. You was speaking from the benefits of the 6YE skeleton and of durability in comparison with silicone..
So teddy babes didn't come directly to mind. Sorry
But it could be a great solution if you like that material, with enough imagination to the less realistic looking and feeling bodies.
I think it's an other kind of experience. Not better, not worse - different!

But why should cuddling cause more stress for material and joints? And why should silicone be more resistent than TPE for that.
Mainly sexual purpose and even much photography creates more stress and wearing of material than cuddling can ever do.
With one exception : the hands - wrists/fingers!
When you rotate the doll or move to incautious, it could damage easily the finger wires.
But with some routine and precaution it's nonetheless good to handle.
And of course, a ball-joint wrist is for easy cuddling purpose not beatable.
Mostly important is the weight. If the doll isn't to heavy, then moving and rotation is absolutely no problem and causes even less stress for the material.
For me it's under 66lbs (30kg)
So, the 6YE 150 is really great for that. Like i said before, 6YE TPE is soft but very durable.
Some thicker tights can also protect the skin and feel really amazing.
You can also go for silicone, but not necessarily.

[anataus]

Hi anataus,


But why should cuddling cause more stress for material and joints? And why should silicone be more resistent than TPE for that.
Mainly sexual purpose and even much photography creates more stress and wearing of material than cuddling can ever do.
With one exception : the hands - wrists/fingers!

Hi Dr Dollinger

well I suppose that a "rock and roll" action cause ,more stresses to the doll than posing her for pics
Anyway let's put it in a more technical , more accurate and less emotional way

Are the "tensile strength " and the "compressive strength" parameters of TPE higher or lower than the ones of silicone ?

I accept that these parameters can vary from manufacture to manufacture but , in general, they should be significantly different for different type of materials

[Dr Dollinger]

A light doll, lying on a soft mattress, rock and roll around don't harm the material at all.
For photography you have to carry the doll around, changing positions from standing to sitting to lying, moving joints alot and put some weight on hands an feet and stress the joints and material far more than one could easily think. Alone frequently changing of clothes is stressing the material.

True is, silicone is more stress resistant in some ways and easier to repair with a higher tensile strength but that makes for cuddling no difference and doesn't matter. Elasticity is much better on TPE.
Here is the emotional factor, what really counts and what you prefer more.
And of course the financial factor.

[WaffleAnomaly]

A light doll

For reference, what are we targeting here? I'd consider my fabric doll a "light doll". My WM 158 isn't what I'd consider "light" and I'd be worried of the skeleton skewering the material rolling her around. Granted I've put her on her side several times with no harm, but it makes me worry especially the shoulder joint at times.

[Dr Dollinger]

I would consider max 30kg (66lbs) but that depends on softness of material and the stiffness of the joints.
Even my YL148 works for that pretty well. Great softness /durability relation. I would never use my WM158. There i totally agree with you.
To be safe i would say max 27kg (60lbs) like the 6YE 150. Works for me like a dream.

[anataus]

Hi anataus,

Please don't blame jeff, for given not the right answer what maybe is the best solution for cuddling.
This is a TPE manufacturer section. You was speaking from the benefits of the 6YE skeleton and of durability in comparison with silicone..
So teddy babes didn't come directly to mind. Sorry

I did not ask what is the best solution for cuddling , of course a fabric doll is more resistant than a TPE or even a Silicone doll
I asked what is the dfference between a silicone and TPE doll as far as cuddling is concerned

Anyway I have to agree with you that cuddling should not cause to much stress
I squeezed the breast of a piperdream torso, made of TPE, in a sexi shop
Actually thanks to the elasticity of the material , a TPE doll should not be seriously damaged, if you handle her with certain caution, of course
I was however disappointed about the realism to the touch which many members , even silicone supporters, admit to be the strong point of TPE vs Silicone
I realize that this is , up to a certain extent, a matter of taste
Maybe also that piperdream torso is made of low quality TPE

However it was sticki , the porosity was beyond any realism and well...it was too much elastic
Does anybody have a "Piperdream" "FuckMeSilly 2 " torso or similar ?
Is it 6Ye like ?