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I like the design of the 140, and the 138 elf. However most vendors/manufactures act like this is a censored website, and don't show the angles we care about most. Like the ASS, the VAGINA spread so we can see how wide the orifices are and the size of the inserts that come with the product.

PS. VIVID / BCD / TDF make this happen please.
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I agree... Vivid makes fantastic looking dolls. Love their body sculpt and facial detail.

I've been considering them for some time for my next project but we could reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally use more pics. Lots of em.
Love what i've been seeing so far.







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Together with a couple of other friends I have been helping and encouraging Vivian behind the scenes.

The origin of her brand was in partnership with David Liu, a most amazing sculptor and artist, who'd engaged her for commercial development of his dolls. It turned out that whilst being a wonderful art talent, that he was a big talker and he'd already engaged and parted from a previous commercial friend of high repute in the mannequin and doll world who had also admired his art. This was Joyce of Oriental Rose and her involvement led me to know that this wasn't a company simply reselling other dolls as so often we see. News of a genuine new manufacturer . . . is . . . rare. I wasn't to know of why Joyce had ceased to work with him until rather later. . . .

Vivian and I were highly excited in expectation of the first sample doll to be sent to England. But when it arrived . . . oh dear the quality . . . wasn't what Vivian had been expecting to see. So I became involved in helping with advice and guidance, and by the time we had sample number three we had before us a workable doll . . . except that when testing her in normal use she broke on me.

Meanwhile Joyce who had tried to help Liu warned Vivian and me about how impossible he was to work with.

Sure enough he took all Vivian's work for him for granted, and all the investment in improving the product, and went forward with his factory brand without Vivian.

Dolls bought by members subsequently from his brand have been reported to have broken skeletons as Liu doggedly refused to make the quality required and apply processes of quality control within his production. (I should add that this is why I personally encouraged Ray Ling's efforts at JY, and Ray left JY for the reason that that factory also would not submit to appropriate mechanisms of quality control.)

Over the course of the last year Vivian has worked with another sculptor and another factory to bring forward her own dolls independently of Liu. In the summer she was working at the factory in China on this and has direct experience of experiments with different formulations of TPE, different design ideas and skeleton construction. However, doll business doesn't seem to have been really thriving enough in the last four months to encourage her to bring these dolls forward to market.

As a result she's available for consultancy and has a wealth of understanding of the materials, construction and all issues of dolls and the market together with an in depth knowledge of every doll factory able to produce dolls of any reputation. In particular this is why she's of enormous help and value to TDF behind the scenes and her wide knowledge is important to the protection of doll enthusiasts as consumers.

If demand for dolls demonstrates a healthy upturn then perhaps we might persuade Vivian to bring forward her own dolls again. In the meantime whilst I haven't spoken with her very recently but know that she's friends with Joyce of http://www.ordoll.com who is bringing forward new sculptures and perhaps we might see their collaboration.

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What a shame, i was aware that something along those lines had happened with Liu but did not have the full story... that is most appalling to read.
Thank you Harem for shedding some light on it.

I really hope that Vivian decides to move forward with introducing her new sculpts, be it through a collab with Joyce or as her own line with Vivid. I have had the privilege of seeing pictures of one of the more fantasy themed projects that she had under way a few months back and was literally blown away! I think there is enormous potential here and absolutely love what we she has shown us so far. Some of the best looking dolls out there by far imo... such a labor of love deserves to see the light of day!




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Yes, I was looking at the vivid elf myself. IMO she the most attractive elf on the market, an idea I hadn't even considered until I saw her. Special thanks to Harem for that complete explanation.

If Vivian is able to produce some of her dolls, she will definitely have my support.
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Thanks Harem for the heads up, sorry to hear the news. :cry:
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haremlover wrote:If demand for dolls demonstrates a healthy upturn then perhaps we might persuade Vivian to bring forward her own dolls again.
I don't understand the business model, so this may be a stupid question: It sounds like people are interested in buying her dolls. How many orders need to come in for a particular design before it's worthwhile for a factory to set the mold up and squirt out the dolls?

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Post by Anung Un Rama »

OK,

So been sitting on this one for a while until Vivid made their announcement.

Vivid have almalgamated with SM Dolls and are now SM Dolls.

See this topic.

http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p1241509

SM DOLLs (Shangmei Doll) has now taken over the previous Vivid subforum as well.

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Thanks for your post. SMdoll will try our best to provide more good dolls.
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Life is what happens when you make other plans.
Small changed over time add up to huge changes and Vivian's focus was on quality.
I can also tell you that I know both of the people she is working with and she was very smart who she picked as well.
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I am looking forward to seeing the Vivid/SM collaboration - the elf doll is very nice.

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That elf doll is great, any modification options? I love the body but would like slightly smaller breasts.

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Rossk2000 wrote:That elf doll is great, any modification options? I love the body but would like slightly smaller breasts.
I agree the exaggerated breast size almost overwhelms the rest of the dolls amazing curves.


PS. MORE ASS PLEASE. :whistle:
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