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New photos about shrugging shoulders

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Hello, friends,
I went to the jinsan factory and took those shrugging photos to show you how the shrugging shoulders looks like..
Please share comments with us!
Thanks.

Sincerely,
Miracle
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The shoulders are great, but then you follow down the arms to those deformed looking hands. Just spoils the entire effect for me. I really wish manufacturers would concentrate on fixing more pressing and known problems first. :roll:

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She has that look as if to say "Well what are you waiting for" :mrgreen:

Nice to see a design improvment, as Mr Franz said there are maybe 1 or 2 other things that could be better. but still looking good. :thumbs_up:

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The ability to shrug is nice, but in doing this, they have altered the way they do the joints so that even a small joint adjustment is now a major effort, "READ MAJOR SURGERY" so it is one step forward and two backwards! Same with the neck, they have gotten away from the gooseneck and again managed to take two steps backward. So the gain is voided out!

"ALL OF The above is ONLY MY OPINION and this problem is not limited to Jinsan"

They simply need to change the way they are doing the joints to have a very very good skeleton!
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Miracle - you're one of the most diligent and knowledgeable of all vendors!

Brilliant - thank you.

Best wishes

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I thank you all of you, my dear friends!
Here I show you the skeleton of the shrugging shoulders, the last one is a comparision with a regular one..

Please comment with your great point of view, I will convey to the boss of jinsan..

I will highly appreciate each word from you!

Miracle


PS: I have got the permission of jinsan boss to post the photo of the skeleton here..
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Looks great! If they are powered coated like it looks to be that will help with rust and eliminate sharp edges that could lead to damage.

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If they would simply, not weld the bolt to the skeleton, and not weld the nut to the bolt. Use a nylon locking nut or similar, then they would have a GREAT skeleton. Because, then if the end user decided he/she wanted to loosen or tighten the joints they could. Or if the joints got thru and were not correct from the start, it would not be a major task to simply tighten or loosen them. They are so close to having as good as one could realistically hope to have at the price point that they are at.
It really would not take much to make this into a really Great skeleton!
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Superb

Thank you so much for these brilliant photos.

Miss Atleur is absolutely right about the welding of nuts to bolts. It makes dolls irrepairable.

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You guys need to know that welding is a MUST for the longevity of the joints to hold poses, you guys really do not understand this. If they do not weld then the skeleton will become loose within weeks as I have experienced with CLM bodies.

You can cut through welds using a dremel tool like I have, it is not impossible.

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The goose neck has GONE!!!!!!! :noel2: :noel2: :noel2: :noel2: :noel2:

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tootsie wrote: You can cut through welds using a dremel tool like I have, it is not impossible.
Thanks - that's really helpful encouragement

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tootsie wrote:You guys need to know that welding is a MUST for the longevity of the joints to hold poses, you guys really do not understand this. If they do not weld then the skeleton will become loose within weeks as I have experienced with CLM bodies.

You can cut through welds using a dremel tool like I have, it is not impossible.
(1): I just turned 2 years and my joints are NOT welded, they have been tightened several times, and without even the need to cut! And this is because ONLY the Nut is welded to the frame, the bolt is NOT welded to anything, they used socket button head screws from the factory. This allows my joints to be tightened with out the need to even cut me at all!

(2): It is the pressure that is supplied, usually by Bienville Washers that keep the pressure constant with use and over time.

(3): Usually if the joints are loosening quickly, it is due to them NOT using the Bienville Washers. And/or the bolt is turning inside the nut. Locking nuts prevent this. Even if they themselves are tack welded in place!

Tightening a joint that has been welded is not impossible, but it is needlessly difficult! And requires much more work and a very much higher risk for both Doll and Human!

You Sir might want to rethink what you think you know!
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I thank you, all of you! For your great, creative point of view.. customers are the best resource for improving products!
I will convey your words to the boss.

Sincerely,
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dolls-castle wrote:I thank you all of you, my dear friends!
Here I show you the skeleton of the shrugging shoulders, the last one is a comparision with a regular one..

Please comment with your great point of view, I will convey to the boss of jinsan..

I will highly appreciate each word from you!

Miracle


PS: I have got the permission of jinsan boss to post the photo of the skeleton here..
:whistle: Now that in itself is quite the Miracle ....Miracle :lol:
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