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Introducing the New WM 166 CM

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Dollicious2 wrote:
Bazinga wrote:I would love to see more standing booty pics(not in a thong, nude please). I'm sure there are alot of people including myself that have been looking at this one, but out of the 4 or 5 photo shoots of her there should be at least one all nude standing booty pic. I really love WM dolls and I think that this doll deserves all nude standing front and back shots for us to know what we are getting, just my two cents though.
Sadly there are no photos like that and so far I see no owners posting this doll with the elusive views that would be very helpful in making the decision to purchase...
The photo sessions are very attractive to look at and show the dolls in natural sitting and standing positions however all too often they are covered in clothing for artistic and aesthetic viewing , it would be nice if makers would do more photo shooting of the dolls fully naked and 360 walk around with video's also such as Iron Tech doll maker has begun to do on some of their dolls.
We Need Videos!
The doll should be naked and standing as well as laying on her back with legs parted to show her vagina close up and also in doggie position or laying on her belly with a 360 walk around is what we're looking for here as a standard advertising of all dolls would be greatly appreciated.

The competition in the doll market is fierce so it's about time for the advertising to become better to accommodate the buyer who needs to see more of what he or she is considering.
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Couldn't agree with you more, I believe these dolls are a big purchase to make without seeing everything. The thing I never get is some dolls have those photo shoots I've mentioned and some don't, hopefully naked front, back, and side shots will become standard for all dolls.
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Here is an example
A video walk around of the IronTech 168cm small breasts c cup Ayami Anime Body looking simular to the WM 166cm b cup except with wider hips

For those who haven't seen her I recommend you check this sexy lady out.viewtopic.php?f=388&t=101067
To see my IronTech lady soon arriving at my door https://www.dollforum.com/forum/viewtop ... 8#p1339868

The video is done well with good music even but there are a couple times when the guys shadow falls over her body and then the close up of her vagina is out of focus
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I'm just trying to wrap my head around why most dolls(especially new body types) don't have the proper vids or pics like the above mentioned doll. Man I hope the WM 166 B will get some clear standing booty shots soon. I'll give it a little more time so hopefully a new photo shoot pops up or hopefully someone will post real world pics of her. I mean I'm not crazy right, full standing nude body pics isn't too much to ask for a $2000 doll right? :whistle:
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Many of the manufacturers shy away from full body standing shots when their dolls have unrealistic and unattractive stretched lower legs. Most of these dolls have lower legs that are 10 to 13 cm (4 to 5 inches) longer than the upper leg. They must do this to claim their dolls are taller yet weight less while using the least amount of TPE material => lower cost to produce. But the result is extremely unattractive and unnatural. For example, the WM 165D doll is more of a 152 cm doll with stretched ultra skinny lower legs to claim 165cm height. In bed she will still just be a 152 cm doll with the feet in the wrong place.

For over exaggerated leg lengths refer to the example comparing the WM 168 A-cup to Valeria Lukyanova, an ultra thin 170cm tall Russian Model. The WM168 is about the worst I could find.

Now the WM 157cm B-cup has a better upper to lower leg ratio, but the torso is unrealistically short. I could not find a single photo of a real person under 180cm tall with such an exaggerated short torso. For exaggerated torso length refer to the second example comparing the WM 157cm B-cup to Ava Hardy, a typical thin 157cm tall 18 year old model.

But the most horrific feature I've seen on these dolls is the repulsive unrealistic bent spine with bubble butt and misplaced anus and vagina that happens when the doll is bent over at the waist. Refer to the final example for this problem. Perhaps the skeletons need to be redesigned to articulate more like a human spine to prevent this. And all of the thin dolls need to have flat chest or A-cup max to be considered realistic, refer to porn star Jenna Justine for appropriate sized breast on a thin woman.

This information needs to be submitted to every doll manufacturer. The first one to come out with realistic proportions will make most of the existing dolls obsolete overnight, and leave the rest desparate to catch up. In my opinion the new Irontech 168cm Ayumi Anime doll has pretty realistic proportions, but for a 168cm tall doll the 96cm hips are a deal breaker for me, 89cm hips are more typical of a porn star this height.

I sincerely hope someone takes this serious!
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She is impressive.
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I was very close to choosing this body for my doll Kinga. One of the deciding factors against the 166 was indeed the lack of non-obfuscating pictures. I did not trust that at all.

Eventually went with the 163cm and have no regrets :thumbs_up:

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wr450x wrote:Many of the manufacturers shy away from full body standing shots when their dolls have unrealistic and unattractive stretched lower legs. Most of these dolls have lower legs that are 10 to 13 cm (4 to 5 inches) longer than the upper leg. They must do this to claim their dolls are taller yet weight less while using the least amount of TPE material => lower cost to produce. But the result is extremely unattractive and unnatural. For example, the WM 165D doll is more of a 152 cm doll with stretched ultra skinny lower legs to claim 165cm height. In bed she will still just be a 152 cm doll with the feet in the wrong place.

For over exaggerated leg lengths refer to the example comparing the WM 168 A-cup to Valeria Lukyanova, an ultra thin 170cm tall Russian Model. The WM168 is about the worst I could find.

Now the WM 157cm B-cup has a better upper to lower leg ratio, but the torso is unrealistically short. I could not find a single photo of a real person under 180cm tall with such an exaggerated short torso. For exaggerated torso length refer to the second example comparing the WM 157cm B-cup to Ava Hardy, a typical thin 157cm tall 18 year old model.

But the most horrific feature I've seen on these dolls is the repulsive unrealistic bent spine with bubble butt and misplaced anus and vagina that happens when the doll is bent over at the waist. Refer to the final example for this problem. Perhaps the skeletons need to be redesigned to articulate more like a human spine to prevent this. And all of the thin dolls need to have flat chest or A-cup max to be considered realistic, refer to porn star Jenna Justine for appropriate sized breast on a thin woman.

This information needs to be submitted to every doll manufacturer. The first one to come out with realistic proportions will make most of the existing dolls obsolete overnight, and leave the rest desparate to catch up. In my opinion the new Irontech 168cm Ayumi Anime doll has pretty realistic proportions, but for a 168cm tall doll the 96cm hips are a deal breaker for me, 89cm hips are more typical of a porn star this height.

I sincerely hope someone takes this serious!
Hello wr450x ,
Although I understand your quest for the perfect girl for you and I have to admit I have been in your shoes before and I also am still looking for more realism to be introduced in this market , I would like to point some things out as far as what you may perceive as imperfections or shortcomings that may not be as extreme as you think or may be just flat out wrong in some case's.

One thing I'd like to point out first is that many have stressed that the dolls not be heavy as heavy dolls are not an option for them for many reasons such as health or just convenience of having a light weight small spinner type.
Manufacturers have in the past tried to make the dolls look aesthetically pleasant as they try to keep weight to a minimal level and in the past they have kept some area's of the body to a certain typical standard because of the weight gain problem.
The Dolls have very thin waistlines for the most part yes
The Dolls also have larger breasts most times yes
The Dolls body parts may not exactly match a real woman's perfectly in some case's or even most times yes.

That said ,One has to understand the materials used to make these dolls will add up in weight as they are applied to the skeleton and that placing holes close to each other will add the problem of structural failure.

As for the photos of the dolls there are many ways to present the dolls in photos , the photos are taken from many angles and in many different positions.
Usually the back is arched to give that sexy look we all love to see and usually they are sitting or laying down for many reasons but they do stand the dolls and occasionally stand them with full body photos.

I have to disagree about the lower legs being longer then real women's, that's just a false assumption here , you have to inspect them in person and if your going to inspect by looking at photo's you have to account for many factors that the photo may be presenting such as rollerskates or high heel shoes for example.
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Notice the 18 year old model also has her back straight and the WM157 has the back arched , together with the rollerskates this gives the effect of making the torso look small and legs long.
Even though the real girl on the left has her ankles raised very slightly that is no comparison to having platforms with rollers under the feet , Every single centermeter added to the feet makes a very large difference in height and proportions of the entire body.

Now in these photo's we have 3 women's body's posing in 3 completely different ways , although the positions are of a woman bent over with buttocks sticking out there are also many factors here that shouldn't be over looked.
Model 1 is standing and bent at the hips with legs not spread open far.
Model 2 has knees slightly bent and her back arched close to the maximum also with legs not spread widely.
Model 3 the real human woman is clearly on her knees though that's cut out of the photo here and while her back is slightly arched it's only slightly plus her legs are separated clearly farther then the TPE dolls have legs positioned , as for the entry holes I have to agree they do look more inviting as it is impossible to have a sphincter on a TPE doll and usually the vagina will be slightly opened as the legs are spread wider , but in defense of the dolls real women also have a tendency their vag will open slightly too.
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If you shop around you will find some doll makers have tackled this issue rather well
You've seen the YL170 and the IronTech 168cm have very nice vagina and anus entry's looking anatomically correct and very inviting also I believe , just an example as there are others , besides just like in real life woman , women have different distances between their entry holes , no two are exactly the same but there is a set of differences that are most common , that is the universal differences of every woman.

Now finally the subject of body types
The WM 168 super thin A cup was the first of her kind in the doll world
She was the attempt to please a very large crowd of us doll lovers who had been asking for a tall supermodel body with small breasts and low body weight.
Since then we can see the doll makers have been working hard to create more realistic body's and the 166bcup in this thread is a perfect example of that innovation and evolution in practice.
In this photo we see two completely different body types ,
Model 1 here has a wonderful example of a tall thin model who also has somewhat muscular thighs and a very nice hip to waistline ratio.
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Model 2 has the look that at one time the supermodel industry preferred for hanging the clothing on the body , it's my opinion that was a very dark period in fashion industry... and like I mentioned before this doll was the 1st of her kind and more of an experiment and attempt to satisfy a large crowd that had been asking for the tall dolls with small and more realistic breasts.
I personally never liked this doll as it's not my cup of jo but there are some who may like her still , it's a matter of variety.
I have to admit on this doll in particular the lower legs is too long but you have to keep in mind this doll body is very old and was an attempt to make a tall doll that is thin.
WM and many others have made great advancements and they are continuing to look for ways to improve the look and also make the dolls less heavy which is a very difficult thing to do without having structural failures or having dolls increase in price tag to an obscene amount.

Now it is my opinion that the WM166 b cup is every bit just like this model 1 in that photo above , that's my opinion and you think otherwise that's your opinion.

As for the IronTech 168cm b cup Hips size difference to the pornstars hip size...
THANK GOD !
96cm hips are so perfect
Her hips and ass are so soft and squeezable it's amazing !
A small buttocks would've ruined this doll and her ass wouldn't be so nice looking and feeling.
IronTech really hit a homerun with this doll body :thumbs_up:
Now they just really have got to make much better faces...
The faces they offering now are horrible to say the least.
They need to improve the heads look and size for taller dolls.
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Dollicious, Are you getting a replacement for your IT168? Seems they are correcting the bubbles and entry placement. I'd really like to see more photos of her.

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wr450x wrote:Dollicious, Are you getting a replacement for your IT168? Seems they are correcting the bubbles and entry placement. I'd really like to see more photos of her.
I don't know if they are changing anything yet but my doll hasn't been changed I believe, they have to make adjustments to the mold in order to address anything and my doll has the original body mold as far as I know.

I have just got my shipment today but I was at work so I will pick her up tomorrow morning and post a new review of her this weekend.
I posted a few new photos of the solid breasted body on my review thread in my signature here for Yaelina https://www.dollforum.com/forum/viewtop ... 7#p1355817
I will post this one here but the rest are on the thread link
Only because I really like this backside photo a lot.
This thread isn't for this doll but the WM 166cm resembles the 168cm I.T.
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Wow, her backside really does look lovely :)

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On the WMDOLL ALI-E store they indicate the 166 B has an inner thigh lenght of 82 cm which if correct is perfect.My only concern is the shoulders width advertised at 34 cm (it should be minimum 36 for a 83-85 hips line) but we have to know how that is measured
.In half of the cases (12 dolls of different brands) I found 2 to 4 cm difference there by measuring the actual body in comparaison with the seller table.
The last case for example was my IRON TECH 169 (92 hips line) advertised with shoulders width of 34 when actually this was 37-38.
The WMDOLL cup A with abnormal calves length I own on the other hand was advertised at 34 cm (far enough for a 78cm hips line) and I measured that exactly;
The DH168 156 evo was advertised at 38 and I measured 34 cm which was enough for her 81 hips line when 38 would have not been gracefull.
The 6YE 165F with a 91 hips line (almost perfect body ratios but breasts oversized) had 38 exactly as advertised.
My next doll coming is the IRON TECH 168 (AYUMI body) which despites her 96 cm hips line appears to me as beeing a marvel of realism.They advertise 35 for the shoulders width which should be at least 38-39 cm.

There are so many (unvolontary?) mistakes in the seller table that I appreciate a review where the owner list the actual measurements of the body including its weight.That is the only way of knowing if the body has realistic ratios or not as the photos often distort reality.

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wr450x wrote:Many of the manufacturers shy away from full body standing shots when their dolls have unrealistic and unattractive stretched lower legs. Most of these dolls have lower legs that are 10 to 13 cm (4 to 5 inches) longer than the upper leg. They must do this to claim their dolls are taller yet weight less while using the least amount of TPE material => lower cost to produce. But the result is extremely unattractive and unnatural. For example, the WM 165D doll is more of a 152 cm doll with stretched ultra skinny lower legs to claim 165cm height. In bed she will still just be a 152 cm doll with the feet in the wrong place.

For over exaggerated leg lengths refer to the example comparing the WM 168 A-cup to Valeria Lukyanova, an ultra thin 170cm tall Russian Model. The WM168 is about the worst I could find.

Now the WM 157cm B-cup has a better upper to lower leg ratio, but the torso is unrealistically short. I could not find a single photo of a real person under 180cm tall with such an exaggerated short torso. For exaggerated torso length refer to the second example comparing the WM 157cm B-cup to Ava Hardy, a typical thin 157cm tall 18 year old model.

But the most horrific feature I've seen on these dolls is the repulsive unrealistic bent spine with bubble butt and misplaced anus and vagina that happens when the doll is bent over at the waist. Refer to the final example for this problem. Perhaps the skeletons need to be redesigned to articulate more like a human spine to prevent this. And all of the thin dolls need to have flat chest or A-cup max to be considered realistic, refer to porn star Jenna Justine for appropriate sized breast on a thin woman.

This information needs to be submitted to every doll manufacturer. The first one to come out with realistic proportions will make most of the existing dolls obsolete overnight, and leave the rest desparate to catch up. In my opinion the new Irontech 168cm Ayumi Anime doll has pretty realistic proportions, but for a 168cm tall doll the 96cm hips are a deal breaker for me, 89cm hips are more typical of a porn star this height.

I sincerely hope someone takes this serious!
This was very cool post! And I do like photo comparisons.

As much as manufacturers are at fault neglecting the short torso or super skinny legs we - and I mean all members of this wonderful forum should speak up in every thread about this.

If we dont, they will find this issue low priority!

Look at best example - dolls have insane size booty and who knows what kind of letter chest size - whale size. Why they make that dumb stuff? Maybe someone voices that as a concern, and manufacturers decide to start making such dolls. /no need to get insulted, its not about that

So if we could do the same on this, perhaps one manufacturer will step it up, others will follow.

I would be fine with small ass, heck even B size boobs would be fine if a doll would look like real chick!
Wanted doll features - Pussy to mouth 80cm lenght - High quality eyes - Magnetic faces

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Like I've said before the photos sometimes distort the actual in person look of a doll

These dolls are Amazing when they are sitting in front of you or in some case's on top of you or underneath you.

In most every case the dolls I pick out to be mine are very realistic and I get lost in it all and she easily becomes real as any fleshy human woman we call "Real Women" who usually become Real pains in the Ass and in many cases Real 2 timing Bitches.
You can take that to the bank
That's if the "Real Bitch" hasn't looted your bank account yet :mrgreen:
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By the way speaking about anatomically correct body, the pictures posted by wr450x regarding the WMDOLL 168 cup A (which I own)show this body has almost such quality.(together with the very long inner labias)Only the calves are abnormally long. This is in fact a perfect skinny 155 cm body with stunning realistic ratios (when calves are shortened by 13 cm)
My DH168 161 cm cup C is further even slightly better in the respect of anatomic correctness.
I can assure you that these two bodies make the difference when used in doggy style is it for "playing" or as far as the erotic aspect of their private parts in that position is concerned.
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Why don't I see any new photos of this awesome doll ?

Has anyone bought this WM166cm doll ?
Owner pics thread would be very appreciated
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