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 Post subject: Question about whether doll is genuine WM . . .
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:46 pm 
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I have called elsewhere for a Manufacturer Customer Provenance verification process - http://www.dollforum.com/forum/viewtopi ... 87&t=93077.

In the light of the PM below, this is increasingly necessary. Can anyone help on the specifics of assessing whether the characteristics reported by the member suggest a genuine or fake or second quality doll?

I have experienced a WM doll with extremely tight wrist joints and I'll need to reply about testing for where the hand is actually bending. But there are a few things here, such as the wooden plate packing, which need the input from someone having received a doll genuinely recently. The bent foot plate sounds like bad handling, especially as the wood in packing was broken. But I have seen a doll packed with a piece of wood at the neck end and it wasn't a Jinsan doll.

Best wishes

Harem

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I ordered a wm 168-E through a vendor here on the forum but upon receiving her have a few
questions.

Most important is how do i tell she was meant for the foreign market and not a cheaper
produced doll for china market?

Reason i ask is that she has certain differences with the wm-161 i had. One of her shoulders seems
to slope down at a steeper angle then her other shoulder. Also the wrists seem to be extremely tight
or hard to bend compared to the 161 i had. So much so that i suspect she has wire wrist and not a
hinged wrist that i had on the 161.

Was also wondering if it was normal for standing feet to have the bolt nearest the big toes to be higher
up as if the plates are bent upwards in the corners.

Right now just looking for some piece of mind. Doll itself looks amazing aside from some unfortunate dents
made by stupid packing choices. Which has been another anomaly. Does WM always bolt the dolls body to the
box by way of a piece of wood at the neck side? The body weight snapped the thin piece of wood easy and had
splinters rolling around in the box which resulted in only a few dents and not punctures for which i am eternally
grateful.



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 Post subject: Re: Question about whether doll is genuine WM . . .
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:49 pm 
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Well, my WM 140cm arrived about 3 months ago. I feel certain that it's authentic. There was no wood in the box at all.



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 Post subject: Re: Question about whether doll is genuine WM . . .
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:14 pm 
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Well, he may have the shrugging shoulder chassis option that would account for the shoulder alingment.

If the wrists are tight and hard to bend, then this is more an indicator of a hinged wrist, not a wire joint wrist. The rotation test normally will sort that out, as a hinged wrists only rotates to about 90 degrees either way, where a wire wrist can be rotated nearlt 360 degrees and then some.

Ok, the wooden plate is something I have not experienced with my WM dolls packaging.

This is something JINSAN or WM may wish to comment on, in the event this is a new packageing innovation that may require improvement.

I know there was some discussion factory side regarding packgeing that was to be more resilient for handling, such that the dolly would not push through the bottom or top of the packaging box during frieght, but I am not sure if or how this has been implemented. WM can be stoic in reply at times.

Any images of dolly, will also help us provide further clarification.

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 Post subject: Re: Question about whether doll is genuine WM . . .
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:44 am 
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It's relevant here to say that WM have been leaking out dolls into the market at rather cheaper prices and as a result one vendor said he was refusing to deal with them any more.

As prices go cheaper, quality control isn't capable of being waitress served . . . and it's for this reason that I have recommended and preferred brands where the manufacturer maintains prices and, importantly, takes each doll delivered to the customer as a matter of personal responsibility.

It's a pleasure, indeed a joy, when dolls are delivered with joints set just right and that's why I advocate against the forces of lowering prices and vendors likewise who refuse to go to low prices are to be valued. The vendor with higher prices will have more margins with which to make things good, or more buying power to force the manufacturer to send a doll of better quality.

Best wishes

Harem



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Chloé and her DS sisters and Rose from OR (Oriental Rose) star in many stories.
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