Entry issues

carver · Post by **carver** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:44 am

I have a gorgeous OrHcup that is three months old with a fixed vagina and I have to agree they are way!! too tight. Being fixed I tried using condoms to keep her clean but that is impossible as they always rip from her being so tight. I am going to try leaving a silver bullet dildo in her 24/7 to see if it will expand her opening over time. The new YL dolls look as if they have larger vagina openings. Can any YL owners confirm this from experience compared with other WM dolls?

Fongool · Post by **Fongool** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:38 am

I finally got a chance to try out my 140 and yeah, it's absolutely TERRIBLE. It's not that it is too tight, it is that the backpressure forces you out. Like I said before, these girls need to VENT!! Otherwise it's frustrating and feels awful. You shouldn't have to take a blue pill to fuck a rubber doll. It's just poor design. There's a REASON the Fleshlight has a cap on the back that you can loosen...

I solved this by simply cutting a few inches off the end of my fleshlight insert and shoving it in. It doesn't look "realistic", but it FEELS amazing. The reason it works so well is that A: the fleshlight material is VASTLY softer than the TPE insert and B: I cut it short enough that it doesn't "bunch up" in the back of the vagina cavity. This allows for the natural air-pocket of the cavity to alleviate the backpressure substantially.

But, since the fleshlight insert is hollow all the way out the ends, lube and other fluids could seep into the vaginal cavity. SO you have to watch out for that. Also, I don't know if there are possible bad chemical interactions between the doll and the insert material.

But for me, this is the only way this doll is even useable. Kind of disappointing.

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ilikedolls123 · Post by **ilikedolls123** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:07 am

I've done mods myself just like that.

I ordered a 168E-cup last week with built-in. She is for play only (I'm not much of a photographer) and one of the first things I'll do when she arrives is to check her pleasure tunnel for tightness. I have a homemade "dildo" that I made in my image, so to speak, specifically for this task. I'll lube her up then test her out in a few positions.
If she's too tight and she's hard to enter and/or pump in and out with the homemade schlong, then I'll know she simply won't work for me in her current state. I'll have work to do. I'm going to make our "first time" meet my expectations instead of it ending in disappointment.
You see, when I think of sex, I know sometimes entry may not be easy sometimes if the woman just has a tight opening or not enough wetness is present. But once you are in all the way, then going in and out is as smooth as butter! I want as close to that as possible with my doll.
So if I have to, I'll modify the hole to make it work for me. If I have to widen the internal canal a bit that's what I will do. If I have to go to extremes and bore out enough to fit a sleeve of my choice in there I'll do that, too. The bottom line is, whatever I have to do to make her feel as realistic as possible, I'll go that route.
I know most people would never consider modifying their doll, especially brand new to boot. People may feel that the doll will lose value, no longer be photogenic. But for me, if the doll goes from feeling unsatisfying to being very satisfying, she will go UP in value...at least for me and what I want.
I know that the softer TPE doll I'll be getting in a few weeks will feel even better than the RD that I had! ...where there's a will there's a way

Here is the mod I did:

nemo · Post by **nemo** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:00 am

Dolls to the walls said it earlier in this thread: What's the point of a sex doll if you can't fuck her.

Wishes for optional less tight vaginas have been aired here on TDF from time to time, but manufacturers and vendors just keep ignoring the issue. It seems MFRs think everybody wants tight openings. That may be okay from time to time, but at least some of us would rather prefer to bury ourselves in a gaping, wide, deep inviting pussy! I am not going to buy another doll until that becomes an option.

Van_dread · Post by **Van_dread** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:41 pm

Agreed about feeling the need to take Viagra before entering my doll. Ordered Tomax Lilith Uterus (soft) and modified it. It feels much better to me compared to the WM insert.

Fongool · Post by **Fongool** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:40 pm

@Van_Dread: I've been thinking about getting one of those too. What did you do to modify it?

Stevo85 · Post by **Stevo85** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:53 pm

Glad I dont need viagra. But I might try some for fun if its not too risky. The only stimulant I occasionally need is my laptop to watch a porno while were at it. Combining that with a guaranteed hard on for several hours sounds like a fun evening.

When I was little, my parent taught me that taking medicine when youre not sick will give you the disease its supposed to cure. Bollocks ofc but an effective white lie to keep kids away from the medicine cabinet. And its stuck with me!

Those photos remind me of vaccuum pumped vagoo's that sometimes litter the selection of thumbsnails on porn sites. But in those thumbnails theyre blood red. Not my cup of tea im afraid!

keitherson · Post by **keitherson** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:30 pm

@Fongool: I also got a Soft Lilith Uterus recently. I just trimmed the sides near the top so its all the same width and similar in size to the standard insert.

It fits in okay however I think a harder version would be better for the doll, its really soft and it seems to get pressed together while inside it so its harder to penetrate. I think im gonna cut the opening making it bigger so hopefully it will be easier to penetrate. In doggy especially I found my dick would go a bit above the opening and since it was so soft it would just push up against the top of the insert and the insides of the doll which felt uncomfortable.

Im worried that the harder versions wont feel as good though since I find the default insert way too hard a material for my liking.

Van_dread · Post by **Van_dread** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:04 pm

@Fongool: I also trimmed the sides surrounding the canal opening.

@Keitherson: I agree, it is a little too soft and kind of hard to penetrate if you're not fully hard. I may try the harder version.

Fongool · Post by **Fongool** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:39 pm

That's the good thing about using a fleshlight insert, it has that mushroom shape to it that prevents it from being pushed inside the doll while using it. And having that extra "cap" outside the doll just makes it that much easier to access for penetration.

According to my research, the "regular" Tomax is about equivalent to a fleshlight, which is pretty damn soft. I actually have a hard time imagining what something softer than that would even be like. I suspect that the "firm" Tomax is still way softer than the standard TPE insert, but don't quote me on that.

keitherson · Post by **keitherson** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:14 pm

I did actually try it with a fleshlight however I hated how it looked and it really took me out of it.

Apparently Tomax also do 'very soft' sleeves. I imagine theyre similar in feel to the Meikis which are super soft. Unfortunately the Meikis Ive seen are too big to use in TPE dolls.

I think I probably will buy the hard Tomax sleeve at some point.

Im surprised the doll manufacturers havent made alternative inserts with different textures and whatnot. I'd thought there'd be a high demand for it since (to me at least) that's one of the most important parts of the doll.

Gotta say I'm glad I didnt buy one with a built in vagina, even if I liked the default texture Id probably fancy a change now and then.

Speaking of entry issues has anyone ever actually managed to use the dolls mouth for penetration? I have a fairly average dick and ive never managed to get more than my head in without it being incredibly tight and uncomfortable. Felt like I was sticking it into a metal pipe with a bit of TPE around the insides.

RabidBird · Post by **RabidBird** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:43 am

When I ordered my wm torso doll I was concerned the entry would be too tight. It arrived today and the entry was so tight I couldn't enter. I had to cut widen the opening but still struggled to get in and I eventually gave up. I'm very disappointed by this and will be putting her up for sale soon. If I had known about the extra soft tpe option before ordering I would have chosen that. If anyone else is thinking about ordering a fixed vagina on their next doll, choose the the extra soft tpe option if you are concerned about tightness.

m00zes · Post by **m00zes** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:21 am

Got my new doll yesterday and after cleaning her i put her insert in place. Used the belly pushing trick to remove the air out of the cavity and the insert was placed in merely a few seconds. (She farted when i did this so i think she felt straight at home lol)

Took me some time to position her a bit to my liking and after a while i was ready to go at it. She didn't feel too tight, not the RG feeling but it came close, but after a few minutes she pushed me out. Is there a way to avoid this, or does it get better after some time?

At the moment i kinda feel annoyed ... don't want to use the insert without the doll ... this would make it the worlds most expensive penis sleeve.

PS: i know this is a WM thread and my doll is a 6YE but i think my question is valid for all brands.

carver · Post by **carver** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:18 am

My 1 month old z-one 151 with insert was almost impossible to enter and difficult to get the insert in place. But a BoyToy insert fits in there nicely and feels as good as any RD. The internal canal for insert on z151 is very large because the inserts have such a thick wall to them. Not necessary at all, especially in silicone. But gives you plenty of space for alternatives.

avante · Post by **avante** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:21 pm

Seeing you guys resulting in make inserts to put in a sex dolls vagina....it's just wrong; as in you shouldn't have to do that...like said before: this is a sex doll right; as in made for sex?!?

I myself found (and often find) the insert VERY frustrating, especially the first couple of times. I kinda learned / got a better feeling for which angles work / do not work. So for example dogie can be pretty awesome (as in easy / full entry and not being pushed out every couple of strokes) but you have to angle her right. Missionary is same, unfortunately I kinda have to have her legs very wide, otherwise the insert just pushed me out.

Most annoying is her on top: was my favorite position, and I was looking forward to it most when I got the doll. But it's kinda hard to get in while lifting her, and in this position I tend to get annoyed / lose erection. Only managed a fun her-on-top once, all other attempts were utter failures

So if anyone has tips on sliding in in this position!?

So yeah to round this off: with some practice / experience you will get somewhat better, but also the pussy diameter is way to small and does push me out allot of the times. To the point where I actually pretty much ripped open her pussy, because of the frustration of keep getting pushed out...going kinda mad...not really the way I want to f*ck tho.

LOL fun reading about the no insert session; I ended up doing that too, was actually one of the first times I came with her, before I actually got in the right way in the insert.

Also one final thing: if you turn the inside out, you'll see the first few cm's is kinda shitty / casted shape (the inside wall I mean), and only after like maybe 6-8cm (out of my head) the bults / vains / realistic stuff starts. Which I think is kinda lame...Not that I thing anything will change, but if anyone would fabricate me a insert which has like a 3-4cm hole and is realistic build for the total insert length: I would get it for sure.