100cm WM Dolls Neck bolt strong enough for hanging?

chibisuke · Post by **chibisuke** » Wed May 06, 2015 12:22 am

As mentioned in the title, I intend to gather some hardware and use the threaded pipe and bolt of the wm doll to hang the body from the ceiling of my built-in closet for storage.

So my question is, is the bolt (and the skeleton) strong enough for me to go ahead with this plan?

WM Dolls Affiliate · Post by **WM Dolls Affiliate** » Wed May 06, 2015 1:31 am

Hi chibisuke,

The bolt might be strong enough, but the doll was designed for flat storage on bed or soft mattress/memory foam. We strongly discourage our customers to hang any WM doll by the neck or back like some silicone dolls are stored as they may get damaged by this. We hope you will not attempt this.

This post is about a WM doll, not YL doll. Maybe a moderator can move this topic to WM forum?

chibisuke · Post by **chibisuke** » Wed May 06, 2015 7:24 am

Oh, apologies for misplacing the topic.. I do have a follow up question though.

Due to the situation at my house, I might be forced to store her upright occassionally. If the neck bolt is not an option , will a support system that supports the doll using the armpits be a good idea?

Appreciate the quick replies ^^

WM Dolls Affiliate · Post by **WM Dolls Affiliate** » Wed May 06, 2015 11:29 am

Hi chibisuke,

We do not recommend storing the doll upright at all, only for short amount of time the 100 cm doll can stand, with support and with good stabile footwear. But this is only short time for photos, lovemaking etc. and not storage. She should always be stored laying flat on a soft surface with her arms close to her body and legs closed, same position she had when you unpacked her from the box. Do not store her as some silicone dolls with legs wide open and arms stretched out from body. If you need to hide doll for short amounts of time we recommend storing her in the box she came in, it is not a big box and it does not have any markings that show its true content.

chibisuke · Post by **chibisuke** » Sat May 09, 2015 12:22 am

Thank you for your advice! It just occurred to me that the head should be easier to remove compared to the old orient doll jewels, and removing the head should make the overall package smaller. This opens up new places around the house where I can store a doll laying down.

I will be sure to do so, thank you.

DarkOne · Post by **DarkOne** » Sat May 16, 2015 4:31 pm

Definitely lay down! The neck is never very strong in smaller dolls and is a common failure point! The only dolls that can be hanged by the neck are those who use real hinge joints in the neck, and generally only silicone dolls as I suspect TPE is not going to like the force of gravity.

Holding under the armpits will SURELY lead to huge dents in the skin if left like that. Same with any kind of crotch hold. I wouldn't even rest them on a heavily inclined surface (45 degrees or more) as the force on the TPE might cause it to get creases/tears.

Post by **Chrissy** » Sat May 16, 2015 4:40 pm

I can't remember who or where it was posted, but I think there was a thread about how they made a box to fit a doll under the bed.

DarkOne · Post by **DarkOne** » Sat May 16, 2015 7:00 pm

Chrissy-68 wrote:I can't remember who or where it was posted, but I think there was a thread about how they made a box to fit a doll under the bed.

Sounds like a good plan, very rarely do people look under beds. You can raise your bed with blocks etc.

If you wanna be REALLY secure, you could lock two ends of the box to the bed frame. Result is it can't be pulled out without being unlocked. Only way to access it would be lift the entire bed up, without the keys for the locks.

PS: if you are raising your bed, Might I recommend you find a nice height for having sex with her at the end of the bed and you in a standing or kneeling position? or maybe her in doggy style on the end of the bed and you standing?

You can make the box extra tall if needed to fit, and store her cloths in the extra room in the box (under her? Over her? Ideally with a white sheet/etc between her and the cloths that might stain her!)

PPS: they also make 'skirts' that hang from bed frames, this makes it appear like the bed goes down to the ground when really there is a big empty space under it.

slowburn · Post by **slowburn** » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:35 pm

WM Dolls Affiliate wrote:Hi chibisuke,

We do not recommend storing the doll upright at all, only for short amount of time the 100 cm doll can stand, with support and with good stabile footwear. But this is only short time for photos, lovemaking etc. and not storage. She should always be stored laying flat on a soft surface with her arms close to her body and legs closed, same position she had when you unpacked her from the box. Do not store her as some silicone dolls with legs wide open and arms stretched out from body. If you need to hide doll for short amounts of time we recommend storing her in the box she came in, it is not a big box and it does not have any markings that show its true content.

thanks for this thread, chibisuke.

hi WM Dolls Affiliate - you mentioned a couple things i wanted further follow-up on:
1) hanging - i understand you should NOT hang for storage. i only want to hang temporarily to clean the 100cm doll. if i found a screw hook that worked, would that be okay?
2) storage - you said when not in use, the doll should have her arms close to her body & legs closed, same position she had when unpacked from the box. does this mean i could, if i wanted, store my doll in the box indefinitely without any adverse effects or damage to the doll, as long as the box is laying flat (horizontally) and not vertically?

thank you again.

DarkOne · Post by **DarkOne** » Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:21 pm

slowburn2015 wrote:
WM Dolls Affiliate wrote:Hi chibisuke,

We do not recommend storing the doll upright at all, only for short amount of time the 100 cm doll can stand, with support and with good stabile footwear. But this is only short time for photos, lovemaking etc. and not storage. She should always be stored laying flat on a soft surface with her arms close to her body and legs closed, same position she had when you unpacked her from the box. Do not store her as some silicone dolls with legs wide open and arms stretched out from body. If you need to hide doll for short amounts of time we recommend storing her in the box she came in, it is not a big box and it does not have any markings that show its true content.
thanks for this thread, chibisuke.

hi WM Dolls Affiliate - you mentioned a couple things i wanted further follow-up on:
1) hanging - i understand you should NOT hang for storage. i only want to hang temporarily to clean the 100cm doll. if i found a screw hook that worked, would that be okay?
2) storage - you said when not in use, the doll should have her arms close to her body & legs closed, same position she had when unpacked from the box. does this mean i could, if i wanted, store my doll in the box indefinitely without any adverse effects or damage to the doll, as long as the box is laying flat (horizontally) and not vertically?

thank you again.

I still HIGHLY recommend against hanging by the neck, even for short periods. WM dolls uses a spiral hose style neck and I am pretty sure tension forces are about the worst thing you could do to it.

Just sponge bath them on a towel, then flip them over to do the other side.

Too much fun · Post by **Too much fun** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:23 am

So from everything on this subject I understa its not advisable to store 100cm dolls hanging. What about a 156cm doll? Do the larger dolls have better neck joints?
I have young children and they can be very curious. I also only have a small closet to store her in and there's not enought room to lie her down. If it is the case that absolutely no em doll should be stored vertically then you may want to address this

http://www.reallovesexdolls.com/recomme ... solutions/

DarkOne · Post by **DarkOne** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:13 am

Too much fun wrote:So from everything on this subject I understa its not advisable to store 100cm dolls hanging. What about a 156cm doll? Do the larger dolls have better neck joints?
I have young children and they can be very curious. I also only have a small closet to store her in and there's not enought room to lie her down. If it is the case that absolutely no em doll should be stored vertically then you may want to address this

http://www.reallovesexdolls.com/recomme ... solutions/

No, all the TPE dolls use the same 'flexy' wire neck and are very much not suitable for hanging IMO. The goosenext pipe used for most will be damaged by pulling forces and should in general not be flexed at all IMO if you want your doll to have a long life. Reports of broken necks are not uncommon with TPE dolls from all manufactures and sizes because of the style of neck joint used! The skeleton is just not designed for forces on the neck, or even repeated bending.

thelionking · Post by **thelionking** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:29 am

Here is my thread about storing my 125cm when I had her. I keep a pad lock on it and use it as a foot locker...http://www.dollforum.com/forum/viewtopi ... 15&t=60246

Obin · Post by **Obin** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:54 am

bump!

Too much fun wrote:So from everything on this subject I understa its not advisable to store 100cm dolls hanging. What about a 156cm doll? Do the larger dolls have better neck joints?
I have young children and they can be very curious. I also only have a small closet to store her in and there's not enought room to lie her down. If it is the case that absolutely no em doll should be stored vertically then you may want to address this

http://www.reallovesexdolls.com/recomme ... solutions/

Maybe that vendor knows more.

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Post by **RealLoveSexDolls** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:14 am

We do not recommend hanging your doll by the threaded neck bolt (that connects the head and body), as the title of this thread suggests.

Our solution is the Closet Bar Suspension Kit, which utilizes a WM Dolls internal steel neck pipe to engage with our system for a completely secure method of storing your doll. The actual pipe that is engaged with the CBS Kit is located above the gooseneck pipe tube (that we've heard mentioned here and which allows your dolls neck to bend). It bears mentioning that the gooseneck pipe itself is extremely strong in it's own right, and is completely encased in a mesh-like material that is melded into the TPE. If anything could break it would be below the gooseneck pipe, where it is very securely crimped inside the steel pipe attaching it to the body. The weight of your hanging doll however isn't near heavy enough to pull the connection apart, not even remotely close. If you yourself were to hang on the doll, your full body weight and hers together pulling down on her, may be enough weight to pull the pipes apart. It would literally take that kind of intentional abuse to break your dolls neck using the CBS Kit.

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