Some questions for WM

FlashGordoll · Post by **FlashGordoll** » Mon Jun 09, 2014 5:20 pm

Hello WM dolls, I'd like to know a few things in advance because I'm interested in your 163 doll and some things are unclear to me.

1: Do your dolls have a neck bolt option like some other dolls? Basically can they can be suspended from a neck bolt via a stand so the user can take standing up photos or simply use it to aid dressing or wash the doll?

2: Can these dolls stand up on their feet for short periods without the support of a stand? Or would this cause damage to dolls feet?

3: What are the head options for the 163? Or is the head on the 163 page of your website the only head currently available for the 163 doll?

4: Do all your dolls come with movable eyes as standard? Or is this an optional extra?

5: Do all your dolls come with finger skeleton as standard? Or is this an optional extra?

6: What does the built in vagina/anus look like on the 163? (If you would prefer not to post such photos, could you PM me some, I promise to keep them private). And how durable is the built in?

7: How sturdy is the skeleton? I've had a lot of problems in the past with poorly designed skeleton and just want to know if its been tested well and nothing will loosen or easily break?

8: What type of shipping container are the dolls sent in? Do you use a cardboard box, if so is it a sturdy reinforced double ply box? One thing that worries me is the risk of the doll being damaged in transit by those clumsy oafs. (delivery blokes and customs twats).

A very sturdy container with loads of very thick padding inside is what I'm hoping for.

9: What do you put down on the customs declaration as a description for the goods inside?
Sex doll? Display mannequin? Or... ?

Oh... crap, it turned out I had more than a few questions. :drinking:

Thanks in advance for any answers!

Cheers, Flash.

Obin · Post by **Obin** » Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:42 pm

About to drop off the front.

I have read that a wooden crate is offered.

Post by **WM dolls** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:36 am

Thank you for your support WMdolls and those question. this is our reply.

1: Do your dolls have a neck bolt option like some other dolls? Basically can they can be suspended from a neck bolt via a stand so the user can take standing up photos or simply use it to aid dressing or wash the doll?

Reply: Our dolls have a hole in the doll back and can support suspended dolls . but we not suggest customer use this because its not strong enough. We will thinking about neck bolt if its necessary.

2: Can these dolls stand up on their feet for short periods without the support of a stand? Or would this cause damage to dolls feet?

Reply:WM dolls cant stand up without support , but cant stand up against the wall . also because TPE material is soft ,so we suggest give dolls put on shoes before stand , this way can give some protection. Like our 153cm and 163cm dolls about 30kg weight ,so its will easy damage dolls feet if keep long time stand .

3: What are the head options for the 163? Or is the head on the 163 page of your website the only head currently available for the 163 doll?

Reply:Yes currently 163cm dolls only 1 face . of course 163dolls will have more head choose in future .

4: Do all your dolls come with movable eyes as standard? Or is this an optional extra?

Reply:yes all our dolls have movable eyes. Its standard.

5: Do all your dolls come with finger skeleton as standard? Or is this an optional extra?

Reply:yes all our dolls have finger skeleton. Its standard.

6: What does the built in vagina/anus look like on the 163? (If you would prefer not to post such photos, could you PM me some, I promise to keep them private). And how durable is the built in?

Reply:163cm dolls built in vagina anus ,see picture . because WMdolls TPE material is very soft and flexible . so vagina and anus is very durable and not easy tear .

7: How sturdy is the skeleton? I've had a lot of problems in the past with poorly designed skeleton and just want to know if its been tested well and nothing will loosen or easily break?

Reply:WM skeleton is good , already many customer buy WMdolls and no feedback about skeleton problem. Every doll before shipping we will make tested and inspection everywhere .

8: What type of shipping container are the dolls sent in? Do you use a cardboard box, if so is it a sturdy reinforced double ply box? One thing that worries me is the risk of the doll being damaged in transit by those clumsy oafs. (delivery blokes and customs twats). A very sturdy container with loads of very thick padding inside is what I'm hoping for.

Reply:Good question. We shipping dolls with cardboard box ,inside is blanket and foma cover dolls to keep dolls safe arrive to customer . I am agree that transit clumsy oafs sometime is not care and keep carton broken , so now we are already search more better material packing our dolls, we will put more thick foma inside the carton each side , this way will keep doll most safe during shipping.

9: What do you put down on the customs declaration as a description for the goods inside?
Sex doll? Display mannequin? Or... ?

Reply: we will show mannequin.

FlashGordoll · Post by **FlashGordoll** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:47 am

Thanks very much for answering my questions WM dolls, that was very helpful.

WM dolls wrote: Our dolls have a hole in the doll back and can support suspended dolls . but we not suggest customer use this because its not strong enough. We will thinking about neck bolt if its necessary.

Personally I think it would be an important feature for the dolls to have a strong enough neck and spine to be able to screw in an eye bolt so the doll can be safely suspended without fear of breakage.
A lot of doll owners would prefer to store their dolls suspended because it takes up less room. It makes dressing the lower half of the doll a lot easier and also makes cleaning and powdering easier. I hope this is something you will consider improving in the near future, at the moment this point would prevent me from making a purchase until improvements are made with a sturdy neck bolt system.

WM dolls wrote: yes all our dolls have movable eyes. Its standard.
yes all our dolls have finger skeleton. Its standard.

Thanks that's great news.

WM dolls wrote:Good question. We shipping dolls with cardboard box ,inside is blanket and foma cover dolls to keep dolls safe arrive to customer . I am agree that transit clumsy oafs sometime is not care and keep carton broken , so now we are already search more better material packing our dolls, we will put more thick foma inside the carton each side , this way will keep doll most safe during shipping.

Without a doubt damage in transit is one of my biggest fears, I've had some very expensive products severely damaged over the years due to inadequate packaging. So its good to know you're looking at improving packing materials and techniques. A strong/rigid 2 X ply reinforced shipping box I would say is essential and as for the foam it needs to be as thick as possible and all the way around the inside of the box (bottom, sides and top) so the doll doesn't slide around inside. Even if it costs a bit more money to have the doll sent in a sturdier shipping box I for one would happily pay extra in the knowledge that the doll would not come to any harm during her voyage across land and sea.
If you want to see some shocking doll packaging please take a look at this topic (video enclosed): http://www.dollforum.com/forum/viewtopi ... 31&t=54054. And this was just from France to Germany!

WM dolls wrote:163cm dolls built in vagina anus ,see picture . because WMdolls TPE material is very soft and flexible . so vagina and anus is very durable and not easy tear .

Fantastic! Thanks for showing the forum this photo.

The inbuilt vagina/anus looks very good, I'd be happier with the inbuilt because of the looks! Nice to hear that its not easy to tear, TPE is like you say very soft and flexible, compared to silicone which can easily tear if stretched too far.

So to summarise everything: Yes I would be happy to buy a 163 doll from WM dolls providing there are modifications to the neck and spine to allow the use of a sturdy neck bolt for the purpose of suspending the doll safely and securely and also I would want to be reassured by WM improving the packaging (as mentioned above). Then I would seriously consider pulling the trigger and buy one of your beautifully made dolls.

Thanks I appreciate your answers, Flash.

Post by **WM dolls** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:21 am

neck and spine to allow the use of a sturdy neck bolt for the purpose of suspending the doll safely and securely .

This skeleton improve need cost long time. at present we are not supply neck bolt . because 163cm dolls is 32kg weight. so we are worry when dolls suspending , its will broken skeleton or doll drop. then its big problem .
So without 100% Confidence we will not launched this neck bolt.

FlashGordoll · Post by **FlashGordoll** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:03 am

Hopefully you can consider making the skeleton with a sturdy neck bolt system in the near future.

I appreciate it will take you time and money to modify the current skeleton and it must be a 100% safe way to suspend the dolls.

I will look forward to the day that happens!

Again, thank you for your time and honesty.

Flash.

Post by **WM dolls** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:41 am

Yes we will thinking about this things and when neck bolt system is come ,i will inform you in first time.

Samurai · Post by **Samurai** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 2:09 pm

FlashGordoll wrote:Hopefully you can consider making the skeleton with a sturdy neck bolt system in the near future. I appreciate it will take you time and money to modify the current skeleton and it must be a 100% safe way to suspend the dolls. I will look forward to the day that happens!

Again, thank you for your time and honesty.

Flash.

You and i both Flash, i would love one of these dolls but until there is a (hanging) option and an improved skeleton my cash will remain in the bank, I have had enough of ankles and wrists breaking in my TPE dolls and also with the dolls not suitable to hang from a doll stand sucks.

The hang option they have is just a nut welded onto the skeleton, if the weld breaks (and it has in one of my dolls) then it can be bad for the doll

I was lucky no damage done to Paula as i caught her in time. But Rachel was no so lucky.

FlashGordoll · Post by **FlashGordoll** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:15 pm

Samurai wrote: You and i both Flash, i would love one of these dolls but until there is a (hanging) option and an improved skeleton my cash will remain in the bank, I have had enough of ankles and wrists breaking in my TPE dolls and also with the dolls not suitable to hang from a doll stand sucks.

The hang option they have is just a nut welded onto the skeleton, if the weld breaks (and it has in one of my dolls) then it can be bad for the doll I was lucky no damage done to Paula as i caught her in time. But Rachel was no so lucky.

Sorry to hear about Rachel's damage Sam.

I would think and hope it would be in the best interests of both manufacturer and doll owner that improvements to skeletal strength would be a big plus, personally I'd rather pay more for these improvements knowing that thicker gauge metal would be used.
And yeah, a nut welded to the spine doesn't sound good when it comes to hanging a doll, probably why they don't recommend it. To be honest I hope it happens, being able to hang the doll on a stand safely would be a big bonus, these dolls look gorgeous.

skyknight · Post by **skyknight** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:03 am

I've got questions as well, but don't want to start a new thread.

1. Do you somewhere show all the faces? Why do they start with #3, where are #1 and #2, and I also can't find a #8?

2. Do you plan to ever produce a smaller doll with a body type like the 153? Because that's the maximum breast size I can tolerate. Everything bigger is a big no to me. But there's no way I could carry a full TPE(or silicone but that's no option here) doll that size. A downsized 153 would be perfect(the price would be more affordable, too)!

Post by **WM dolls** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:16 am

skyknight wrote:I've got questions as well, but don't want to start a new thread.

1. Do you somewhere show all the faces? Why do they start with #3, where are #1 and #2, and I also can't find a #8?

2. Do you plan to ever produce a smaller doll with a body type like the 153? Because that's the maximum breast size I can tolerate. Everything bigger is a big no to me. But there's no way I could carry a full TPE(or silicone but that's no option here) doll that size. A downsized 153 would be perfect(the price would be more affordable, too)!

Please see all face photo . so if you see some number is miss , dont surprised . its correct.

end of this month maybe our 145cm dolls will be finish . future we will make 80cm ,100cm dolls .
145cm dolls you can check our another post

http://www.dollforum.com/forum/viewtopi ... 15&t=54165

staycool64 · Post by **staycool64** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:41 pm

I cant wait to see the new body. Can you please list her measurments from top of her head to vagina. Please take measurement when she is laying down. It would be nice to match up a doll that will match my body. It would be nice to know on your other dolls as well as you know we all are not the same.

Thank you !!

staycool64 · Post by **staycool64** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:44 pm

I hear all nice things about your product and will purchase after questions are answerd =please. Of course I am waiting to see your new dool body. I Like your 163cm body but would like to know the torso measurement as well.

Thanx..

skyknight · Post by **skyknight** » Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:36 am

WM dolls wrote:Please see all face photo . so if you see some number is miss , dont surprised . its correct.

I'm still a bit confused, why you didn't start with number 1 and left some numbers in the middle out. But could be me being too logical

WM dolls wrote:end of this month maybe our 145cm dolls will be finish . future we will make 80cm ,100cm dolls .
145cm dolls you can check our another post

http://www.dollforum.com/forum/viewtopi ... 15&t=54165

That's a good example of the issues I have with most of the smaller dolls. I think the breasts are too big in relation to the proportions of the rest of the body. I'm not a fan of big tits, so the 145cm and the 135cm are just not for me. And I think the future 100cm and 80cm dolls will very likely have the same problem as the breasts tend to become bigger(in relation to the rest of the body) the smaller the doll gets. I also think those sizes might be too small for my tastes.
Something in the height range of the 125-135cm but with the proportions of the 153cm would be great, but I don't think that's very likely to show up here.