Help With Shoulder

Zippy81 · Post by **Zippy81** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:20 pm

I it possible that you twisted the section that connects the shoulder and the elbow like 180 degrees by rotating the forarm area around when you were trying to get the arm back into the original position? Looks like there is a bunch of flesh bunched near the armpit area.

Shoulder problem.jpg

Zippy81 · Post by **Zippy81** » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:23 pm

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from that pic it looks like the crease on the front of shoulder should be in the armpit area? does the skin feel like it has tension on it? like the bicep area or forarm area.

ColColt · Post by **ColColt** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:51 am

I honestly don't know what happened. This is the way she looks now after a few attempts to get her normal. You can see if I move her right arm from the relaxed state by her side forward, the left one is not the same and will not get any closer to her body and wants to go sideways away from the body.

It seems that arm is rotated the wrong way at the elbow.

ColColt · Post by **ColColt** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:14 am

Looking back at some first photos, it looks to me there may have been something amuck with that left shoulder early on. This was one of the first pictures I took and if you look at her left forearm and shoulder it's not like the right one. Maybe it's just my imagination.

tigerdriver · Post by **tigerdriver** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:55 am

I'm having a similar issue with my doll (163cm H-cup), so I should probably stay tuned to this thread to see if there's a solution.
I have the shrugging shoulders option, and I'm not sure if that will potentially make the issue easier or more difficult to solve. I'll should probably try to take some photo to show what it looks like, but her left arm is definitely out of alignment somehow.

BWheeler1 · Post by **BWheeler1** » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:34 pm

From the photos it seems like the tpe has shifted independently from the skeleton. I have had this problem with my 140cm in the years I've had her. All I've ever done is go through the motions to make sure her arm joints move as they should, and then just shift the tpe back. I just grabbed it and gently moved it back so the casting line was right. Now I don't know if this is your problem, but if the tpe will rotate on the skeleton there, it may well be. Just be careful and gentle when you do it.

pup001 · Post by **pup001** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:33 pm

Her arm might have been misaligned before you recieved her. The factory workers might have moved the arm into a weird position and then moved it back wrong?

Zippy81 · Post by **Zippy81** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:03 pm

so I recently got the new model of the 168E and I noticed that the dolls shoulder joint is oddly aligned unlike my taylor dolls. So perhaps its just a create mark from extending the arm outward . It could be alos that perhaps there wasn't enough cloth wrapping around the skeleton in that articular area that binds the skeleton to the tpe as it cures. So perhaps that's why it shifted out of alignment?

My Taylor dolls shoulder:

Taylors shoulder extended.jpg

My WM 168E's shoulder:

168's shoulder extended outward.jpg

Perhaps its the attempt to lessen the amount of strain the armpit area takes when the arm gets extended outward? just some thoughts.