Very STRONG WARNING not to buy ebay, alibaba or aliexpress
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TDF registration isn't just about where TDF gets its money from. It is a de facto trade association the primary objective of which is to ensure quality and good dealing.
Great for those who have had satisfactory experiences elsewhere. It's not everyone's story however.
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I would have agreed more with you 2 years ago. Today however what i have seen & learned disturbs me. These doll plants (manufacturers) are doing things which are not always being done above board. Some of these plants pump out the trash dolls they sell all over the place that are knock-offs, copies, lesser grade crap dolls then play stupid like they have no idea. I will not play that game. You cannot be a honest manufacturer & push these other dolls out in mass quantities then play stupid or refuse to disclose they are making these other dolls for their 2nd tier pushers to cheat & commit fraud with. Just ask Dougharemlover wrote:Recently I refused to photograph a doll from a TDF registered manufacturer until I have news that their quality has improved. The TPE was too prone to abrasion and the manufacturer has taken note and other improvements are in the course of development also. Accordingly there are various mechanisms by which TDF and its members ensure that active manufacturers on TDF are supplying best quality. There are quite a few factories and those which don't meet TDF standards have to sell their dolls somewhere. So the probability of getting a low grade doll increases when you buy from sources outside the TDF mechanisms of bringing better quality to the fore.
TDF registration isn't just about where TDF gets its money from. It is a de facto trade association the primary objective of which is to ensure quality and good dealing.
Great for those who have had satisfactory experiences elsewhere. It's not everyone's story however.
Best wishes
Harem
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In any event if your assertion is correct that some factories make two tier products, we know where second tier products are sold so those outlets are well avoided in general.
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If your doctor prescribes you a certain registered drug, but you decide not to go to the authorised drug store but to buy from a cheap website, how are you sure this is the authentic drug?Boobman wrote:*Analogy* If you go to a doctor to get some legit medicine he tells you its this but then gives you something else or you see the product elsewhere with the same advertising but its not same but being made at the place that makes the legit one, is that right? Not to me its not right.
Most factories of listed manufacturers have been visited by representatives of TDF. We are in touch with listed manufacturers and vendors. We cannot guarantee that nothing can go wrong. Any dealing is between you and the seller, but if something goes wrong, we'll offer support.
I explained several times, in several threads, why TDF is asking listed manufacturers and vendors to support them financially. Very short version: to keep TDF free for members, basically it's a small amount for a business, if they cannot afford this they are unstable. We receive new requests to be listed each day, but we are very reserved in adding new sellers to our listing. TDF is not depending on one or a few sellers. We are independent. Our aim is to improve the doll industry and have quality sellers listed.haremlover wrote:TDF registration isn't just about where TDF gets its money from. It is a de facto trade association the primary objective of which is to ensure quality and good dealing.
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Thank you for doing that.Recently I refused to photograph a doll from a TDF registered manufacturer until I have news that their quality has improved.
Obviously some TDF mfrs are better than others, some far better ( that is my opinion ) and the same goes for vendors as well.
I am not a liberty to expose, but let us just say I have helped atleast one person who had issues with orders from another vendor on TDF.
A couple things for sure
If a new person goes through TDF vendor, they are pretty much guaranteed of getting an authentic doll.
If not, a crap shoot.
Are there good vendors outside TDF?
OF COURSE!
But if people want to play it safe, they will stay TDF
It is simply a numbers game
And if people decide to go and gamble, the best know what can happen like no TPE ball in dolls for example.
Dolls not looking as pictured, dolls also alot heavier too...
A classic is AHole vendors showing pictures of a 60lb WM 150DD and they get a doll that is 85lbs!
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From championing the best of what's available to provision of an environment where manufacturers and vendors want to do the right things TDF provides incentives and opportunities in the best way. And when problems really do go belly up, the mediation service is helpful as well as whatever armtwisting that other members can achieve behind the scenes.
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I have said it better in this or other threads about fraud doll sales, If a plant makes both authentic dolls & other dolls for others that they have to know they are being used to cheat buyers then i think they need to be upfront about it & disclose it. I agree without TDF buying a doll anywhere would be even more dangerous. I praise the vendors & manufacturers who step up to the plate when a mistake or a problem doll of some sort arrives to the buyer. Just like i did yesterday with Leonard of Iron Tech Dolls & others recently & in the past since i have been a member here. Doing the right thing should be just that all the time, mistakes happen but fraud is never a mistake its deliberate always.Nescio50 wrote:If your doctor prescribes you a certain registered drug, but you decide not to go to the authorised drug store but to buy from a cheap website, how are you sure this is the authentic drug?Boobman wrote:*Analogy* If you go to a doctor to get some legit medicine he tells you its this but then gives you something else or you see the product elsewhere with the same advertising but its not same but being made at the place that makes the legit one, is that right? Not to me its not right.
Most factories of listed manufacturers have been visited by representatives of TDF. We are in touch with listed manufacturers and vendors. We cannot guarantee that nothing can go wrong. Any dealing is between you and the seller, but if something goes wrong, we'll offer support.
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Sure, the Chinese market is not always transparent, the term "fog" has been used. But we have to be careful with rumours and accusations. Most probably TDF is the only doll forum that had their representative visiting most of the production plants. We know the owners and their agents. This is no guarantee, but being listed at TDF is serious, there are obligations.Boobman wrote:I have said it better in this or other threads about fraud doll sales, If a plant makes both authentic dolls & other dolls for others that they have to know they are being used to cheat buyers then i think they need to be upfront about it & disclose it.
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Fortunately is someone tries to sell me a Chevelle for $1K and it turns out to be a Chevette, I know the difference.
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If we get asked to price match a vendor outside on TDF like alibabaebayweselldollstoo for alot less, I should not have to email the mfr and ask, will this person get he same doll as if ordered from you should I?
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-Just in timeYou could not of found a better person to help you with your first doll. Jeff /Booty call dolls, knows his stuff... One of the few members that is a vendor and a real lover of dolls. He owns quite a few dolls, and really understands the love we all share.
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The old addage that you get what you pay for applies.alejandromtau wrote:So... A doll for 200 or 300 dollar at AliExpress would be a fair price for the average quality of this sellers?
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And if her back breaks at the spine or you get some disease because of no TPE ball and you used no condom, you will be PISSED off.
You are on TDF, take your time finding a doll.
V/r
Jeff
-princeoverit. One vendor name kept coming up as being great at helping customers walk through the process, Booty Call Dolls. So I decided I would work with them on this first purchase, and did.
-Just in timeYou could not of found a better person to help you with your first doll. Jeff /Booty call dolls, knows his stuff... One of the few members that is a vendor and a real lover of dolls. He owns quite a few dolls, and really understands the love we all share.
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Welcome to TDF!alejandromtau wrote:So... A doll for 200 or 300 dollar at AliExpress would be a fair price for the average quality of this sellers?
$200.00 medical grade TPE silicone dolls from AliExpress makes fun entertainment here.