Hi,
yesterday another thread got deleted (again) because it mentioned an "unlisted manufacturer". TDF management considers mentioning an unlisted manufacturer/brand to be the same as promoting an unlisted manufacturer/brand; this thread repeatedly mentioned "unlisted manufacturers", so to avoid thread removal, I will stick to the TDF listed manufacturers from now on.
Again, different TPE blends used by different TPE manufacturers/brand respond differently to mineral oil care. You need to do own tests, if you have a doll from a not TDF listed manufacturer/brand. This thread is not allowed to give advice for your doll as advice would be considerd promoting an unlisted manufacturer.
Having that said, we currently have the following
problem with the TPE blend currently used by TDF-listed manufacturers/brands WM Dolls, OR Doll, and YL Doll (in short:
Jinshan TPE):
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This is a real-world example from an authentic Jinshan doll, obtained from a TDF-listed manufacturer/brand. There is no doubt about authenticity; this is not a "fake" Jinshan doll and not a "copy". The customer sent this photo one week after he got the doll; these facts could be verified by comparing the delivery date from tracking and the timestamp on the pictures. According to the customer, he used water-based lube when having sex with the doll, and he did not use disinfectants containing alcohol. As far as we can tell, this customer made no mistake and followed the (sparse) instructions from the manufacturer by the letter. If you browse through the forum, there are numerous other reports similar to this one.
This is a problem as an authentic doll from a TDF-listed manufacturer/brand should not look like this one week after arrival, at least not if the customer is carefull and tries everything he knows to avoid to damage the doll.
The
mineral oil care could have helped - or made it even worse. This
depends on the dosage. Too much mineral oil would have made it worse, with right right amount those tears could have been avoided. Now the question is: What is the right amount? Since all this knowledge about mineral oil care is experience-based, we can only give estimates - daily application of white oil or vaseline would
probably be harmful, monthly application is
probably safe. And even this vague recommendation is only valid for the current Jinshan TPE. To give more precise recommentations, the TPE manufacturers/brands would have to disclose the composition of their TPE blends. They don't do this, so recommendations need to remain vague.
Doll Forever TPE responds differently to mineral oil care. This TPE blend absorbs baby oil, mineral oil (paraffinum liquidum) and white oil (paraffinum perliquidum) much slower. If you would try mineral oil care on a Doll Forever doll, you would have to apply very thin coats of vaseline or Nivea creme. If you over-saturate this TPE blend, you
reach the detrimental threshold much quicker because the TPE starts to swell up.
You could try to use this effect for
self-repairing of stress fractures, e.g. on upper thights, vagina and arm pits like so:
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Above: Stress fractures on the butt before applying mineral oil.
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Above: Stress fractures on the butt after applying mineral oil.
However, this only works if you
reduce stress on these areas; meaning, the arms need to be close to the body, and the legs need to closed (default shipping position).
If you do not reduce stress on the high stress areas during mineral oil care, you
quickly accomplish a detrimental effect and stress fractures are amplified:
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Above: Increased stress fractures after applying too much mineral oil.
However, as most other TPE manufacturers/brands, Doll Forever (as stated above) does not recommend mineral oil care at all. WM Dolls does not recommend mineral oil care. OR Doll does not recommend mineral oil care. Climax Doll does not recommend mineral oil care. They do not make care recommendations at all.
That brings us back to square one: There
is a problem with the TPE blend shipped by the TDF-listed manufacturers/brands (as shown in the first two pictures). The
TPE manufacturers/brands do not offer a solution for this problem. And there are other problems, too, like the risk of growing mould. The TPE manufacturers/brands do not offer a solution for this problem, either.
With mineral oil care you can approach the problem of tensioning tears and growing mould. However, you need to
find the right balance and you must
avoid overdoing it, otherwise you will cause harm to your doll.
And again, when trying to approach the problems of current TPE blends, you are on your own.
Mineral oil care is based on user experience and not a manufacturer recommendation.
Sandro