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Hi,

this is a new skeleton for TPE dolls:
It looks promising…

What do you think?

Sandro

I think the "bones" should be hollow, and as wide as possible!

For example, "Why do we need a chest cavity filled with 10 kg of TPE?!?"

ZZZZ wrote:I think the "bones" should be hollow, and as wide as possible!

For example, "Why do we need a chest cavity filled with 10 kg of TPE?!?"

Blow moulded plastic bones with built in snap together ball joints would be my idea
You could also have a blow moulded chest cavity to reduce weight even further

The neck and shoulder joints look very promising! I'll reserve judgement until i see what the fingers look like though!




ZD

ZannyDanger wrote:The neck and shoulder joints look very promising! I'll reserve judgement until i see what the fingers look like though!

Finger are still wires (unchanged). There is a metal plate with slots where the wires are welded into.

Sandro

Thank you for the picture Sandro!

I like this plate design, looks like it could provide a pretty secure footing for the finger wires with a good weld! Should help lessen the likelyhood of a wire breaking loose over time!

While in my opinion the industry should strive to move forward to a new hand design entirely, i do realise that it's what we have to work with for the moment.

Very interesting to see the bare hand plate and thank you for being so open about your products, the skeleton is often one of the most mysterious components in these dolls and very rarely is detailed information about it handily available. I will be keeping an eye out on the new upgraded skeleton in the coming months as i am currently planning a purchase around the corner of 2018.

With that being said, i like the new double hinged neck a LOT, and the shoulders look like they provide a great range of motion! Not to mention the waist too! It's great to see the industry pushing the boundaries yet again!





ZD

The neck and shoulders definitely look like improvements. Though it's all for not if those joints aren't at least sanded down to remove the sharp factory edges. My experience with those types of joints , is why the knees and elbows eventually split the tpe. Those edges are razor sharp and all the bulletproof gauze in the world won't resist those sharp edges.
It might add another hour of fabrication time in the shop to have someone smooth those critical edges, but it would add years to the lifespan of the product.

I like the improvements to the hand/wrist and neck joints. Having posable shoulders will be wonderful too, but it looks like that will be a very long neck. That being said, I still plan to wait for jointed fingers before purchasing another doll.
Thank you for sharing this. Seeing how things work (on the inside) makes it much easier to understand how our dolls will move.

bob7892 wrote:

ZZZZ wrote:I think the "bones" should be hollow, and as wide as possible!

For example, "Why do we need a chest cavity filled with 10 kg of TPE?!?"

Blow moulded plastic bones with built in snap together ball joints would be my idea
You could also have a blow moulded chest cavity to reduce weight even further

They keep telling us plastic won't work with TPE due to the high heat required in the mold process. I've always been a bit skeptical of that claim myself.

As to the skeleton shown. Does look promising, but I'd like to see a less bulky joint utilized. A ball and socket arrangement perhaps.

Mr Franz wrote:

bob7892 wrote:

ZZZZ wrote:I think the "bones" should be hollow, and as wide as possible!

For example, "Why do we need a chest cavity filled with 10 kg of TPE?!?"

Blow moulded plastic bones with built in snap together ball joints would be my idea
You could also have a blow moulded chest cavity to reduce weight even further

They keep telling us plastic won't work with TPE due to the high heat required in the mold process. I've always been a bit skeptical of that claim myself.

It doesn't have to be plastic. Why not aluminum? Industry turns out aluminum cans by the billions, and then we throw them away - so aluminum has to be cheap and easy.

My 2 cents:

It looks good in terms of posing, etc. .

The neck isn't a gooseneck, good.

Are the wrists reinforced?

Are all sharp edges removed that can cut through knees, elbows, etc.?

Have you solved the joint tightness/loosening issue?

How does it fit/fasten in the mold?

Can you sequentially cast a lighter core, then a denser out layer (different molds) with this skeleton?

Does this skeleton allow for 'normal' penetration of orifices?

ZZZZ wrote:

Mr Franz wrote:

bob7892 wrote:

ZZZZ wrote:I think the "bones" should be hollow, and as wide as possible!

For example, "Why do we need a chest cavity filled with 10 kg of TPE?!?"

Blow moulded plastic bones with built in snap together ball joints would be my idea
You could also have a blow moulded chest cavity to reduce weight even further

They keep telling us plastic won't work with TPE due to the high heat required in the mold process. I've always been a bit skeptical of that claim myself.

It doesn't have to be plastic. Why not aluminum? Industry turns out aluminum cans by the billions, and then we throw them away - so aluminum has to be cheap and easy.

Yeah, I agree 100%. I was thinking along those lines myself.

I am thinking this is a JY skeleton design as the pic in the background looks like a pic from the JY 158 Diana set.

Boobman wrote:I am thinking this is a JY skeleton design as the pic in the background looks like a pic from the JY 158 Diana set.

I think it's the new Irontech skeleton myself

Do I detect spot welds at the nuts and bolts? Locking these would be a HUGE improvement.
While the hand design is an improvement, wires for fingers is passe. If the manufacturers want the new business, the wires gotta go.
Also, jaws need to be hinged as most of the dolls on the market have oral cavities that are all but un-useable.
Likin the idea in a previous post for a chest cavity not filled! Large butt dolls could mebbe be hollowed out too? Any weight savings is a big plus. A few pounds count and save manufacturing material costs as well.