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Harem

Says video is unavailible

I've now uploaded to Vimeo and hope it works

The new TPE from OR is AMAZING and the large boobs of the H-cup are very natural and feel wonderful. I'm not a fan of large boobs . . . but I've been seduced. This doll is amazing and looks much more natural than many of the other large breast dolls I've seen.

I think it helps that OR is run by Joyce as a woman, who knows about female anatomy. These dolls are sculptures of good taste.

Best wishes

Harem

This doll is extraordinarily impressive and with luck the video should now work.

This doll came direct from Joyce at https://www.ordoll.com/ and I now have evidence that it's MOST IMPORTANT to buy either direct from her or from one of her authorised local vendors who buy direct from her. I'll be writing about this in due course.

Jinsan have two factories and dolls not bought direct from her and her vendors may well come from the other factory with access to the moulds but using different materials and sold more cheaply through the local market.

Best wishes

Harem

Thanks harem.
Video works fine now.
Love these girls!!!

Peace

Your new OR156H looks like it's probably softer than mine. The breasts seem to hang lower/flatter (though that could be shipping damage, or the camera angle).

Is this the "Ultra soft" TPE formula we've heard about?

I am very curious what you mean by difference from different factories. is this why some people say the G cup is softer then the H?

Yes!!!

Well I bought second hand in England an OR156 G I think - it's the Rose meets the porn star thread - and I don't know where the bloke got the doll. But many people who come to the UK forum without joining TDF too don't know about the finer points of buying a doll. So they will often have bought from non-TDF vendors or vendors who have a deal with an agent in China who has a deal with WM. Through those dealers they have access to other dolls also made at the factory who manufactures for YL, WM and OR. But they aren't necessarily made to the same specifications that Zihan insist upon for her dolls.

The long and the short of it is that I was disappointed with that second hand doll and have been for a long time trying to work out the problem. Had Jinsan changed the TPE formulation for all the brands they make? That doll was harder. In bed she felt like a lump of rubber rather than the sort of placebo that one experiences for a missing partner next to one in bed.

So last week the question was answered when I got a new doll direct from Joyce. As a red blooded male . . . I simply couldn't resist the temptation. I don't think this doll is especially soft - she's the same softness as my WM155 - Nefertiti - and the sister who I bought second hand and sold again deliberately to test her in bed. Although I have not put them side by side yet for direct comparison, my impression of both is that they're the same softness of TPE.

So I looked again at my second hand OR doll from an unknown source - and found that the head is a very slightly different shade of colour to the body . . . and upon pinching the cheek of her head, her head is the same softness as my new lady direct from Zihan and that the body is indeed harder, possibly half as soft.

It's for this reason that the only cause that makes sense is a slight difference in TPE from the two Jinsan factories underlining the importance of buying specifically through Zihan, Joyce, and her authorised vendors who buy directly from her and not through a generic agent.

Certainly the genuine doll . . . is . . . well you can see from the video . . . .

Best wishes

Harem

So i'm confused, is the second factory authorized to make OR dolls or are they ripping off OR doll?

@ZZZZ - You mentioned that you were disappointed with the softness of your doll - was yours also used from an unknown source or did it come direct/authorized vendor?

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PaulDenton2001 wrote:@ZZZZ - You mentioned that you were disappointed with the softness of your doll - was yours also used from an unknown source or did it come direct/authorized vendor?

I bought my doll through a TDF-approved vendor. I have no idea what factory that vendor got my doll from. I seriously doubt they'd tell me.

There are so many damn variables:

• When you see a video, you don't know what iteration of the secret TPE formula is being shown.
• When you buy a doll, you don't know what version TPE formula you'll be getting - one you've seen in a video, or something else entirely.
• When you see a jiggle video, you don't know how hard they're shaking the doll.
• When you see a squeeze video, you don't know how hard they're squeezing the breasts.
• When you see breasts which look like they're hanging lower than the standard model, you don't know if the TPE is softer than standard, or if the breasts were flattened by a shipping accident.

And now:

• When you buy a doll, you don't know if it's coming from the "good factory" or the "bad factory".

These dolls are so expensive, and you have to deal with all this uncertainty...

Well I did the video because I was impressed, seriously impressed.

After this I would not trust any source other than direct from Zihan or an authorised seller

Best wishes

Harem

Perhaps I am also confused. but to sum it up, the H cup you got directly from joyce is softer then the second hand G cup that came from an unknown source.
The two tdf members that I am aware of having both the G and H cup dolls are abracadabra and silicon. both have commented in their threads that the G is softer . That being said I dont know if the dolls all come from the same source.

Also in your "Rose meets a pornstar thread",you identify the other doll as a 156H.

Thanks - I get confused between G and H - in that case both of them are H and I will do side by side photos in due course.

Knowing the usual softness of Jinsan dolls the harder doll was a surprise. The problem with Chinese sellers is that they might say it comes from somewhere, it might look the same . . . . but unless you're getting a doll straight from the actual manufacturer or a reputable vendor who does so, what you get may or may not be the same thing. With two factories making Jinsan dolls only Zihan knows which factory her dolls come from.

Jinsan makes specific dolls for specific brands, but they also make generic dolls which can be sold by any of the brands. In addition one can order a WM head for an OR doll, and vice-versa - the system operated by the factory is complicated and there are few outside the direct Jinsan customers who understand it. So the bottom line is that if one wants an OR doll it's got to come from Zihan or from one of the vendors she supplies.

Best wishes

Harem