I'm in a predicament, could use some advice

ilikedolls123 · Post by **ilikedolls123** » Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:27 pm

kruiser wrote:I understand he might want to sell the doll now but I feel he is selling it for the wrong reasons. I look at things from an objective point of view and when you have two people who are not sexualy compatible then the relationship will always fail 100%. I think it is very important you know what each other is into before you start making sacrifices for each other because lets be honest, sex is the number one reason why a man and woman get together. This doll he bought took planning, he must of thought of what it would be like to have her in his life and he wanted that, it's not something that goes away, I think he is just scared because like you said, there is still a big stigma out there but the same can be said for being gay or tran, that got overturned by said people voicing there opinions and being true to themselves.

Now we have gays everywhere and they even get married, in 5 years time the doll market is going to explode big time into the mainstream and people will have no choice but to acknowledge us , owning a doll is not something to be ashamed about, it is about a man taking control of his sex life and saying no to women who seek to control, use and abuse him. I don't consider it a crusade , I consider it ' manning up' and being a true alpha which is not caring what others think, it's about finally taking control of your life and these dolls will give a man that power, it's real and ever since I bought mine I feel free from the burden of dating and it's a nice feeling.

However, if he really does want to sell the doll and be under the thumb of a woman and always be scared about what others think then so be it, some people are too heavily indoctrinated to change and would sooner live life in ignorant bliss which is an easier path but will never give true happiness.

You are over-thinking the whole situation. From reading his post, the situation basically went like this:

-having dry spell > ordered doll > met RG > no longer want doll

That's it. The guy wanted some 'tang and was willing to settle for a substitute. Now he no longer has to settle 'cause now he's getting the real thing. Now there's others telling him to potentially lose the real thing just to keep the substitute.

To me, if that is his choice and he's asking for help, then instead of second-guessing his choice try to help. Because, let's be honest...how much of an effect will it have on your life whether or not he keeps the doll or marries this girl, or all 3 of them ride off into the sunset, or none of it works out? It doesn't affect our lives in any way what he decides to do, so why try to persuade him to do the opposite of what he wants to do than to promote your own "pro-doll vs problems that come with RG" beliefs? The guy's an adult and he made his choice, why not simply respect that?

rubherkitty · Post by **rubherkitty** » Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:13 pm

Yes, give the guy a break. He asked advice on what to do about selling his doll. Not advice about his love life.

Most everyone here has bought something they can't afford or decide the moment after that they didn't really need the item. Wish I had all the $1000's of dollars I pissed off on silly crap.

kruiser · Post by **kruiser** » Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:15 pm

To me, if that is his choice and he's asking for help, then instead of second-guessing his choice try to help. Because, let's be honest...how much of an effect will it have on your life whether or not he keeps the doll or marries this girl, or all 3 of them ride off into the sunset, or none of it works out? It doesn't affect our lives in any way what he decides to do, so why try to persuade him to do the opposite of what he wants to do than to promote your own "pro-doll vs problems that come with RG" beliefs? The guy's an adult and he made his choice, why not simply respect that?

I'm just giving a view that is different from his as an alternative, what he chooses to do with that view is completely up to him. I honestly want him to be happy and I think the doll will do that but if he's dead set on selling then good luck to him , I mean if you got 5k to blow on a doll then more than likely he will come back and buy another when the RG decides she is suddenly unhappy and walks off. So I think the advice about renting a storage unit is best and just leave the doll in the box untouched until he finds a buyer.

ilikedolls123 · Post by **ilikedolls123** » Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:04 pm

The way I see it, the circumstances surrounding why he no longer wants the doll is irrelevant. If he had come on here and said he severely hurt his back at work a week after ordering it and his doctor advised to lift no more than 10 lbs this thread wouldn't have went the direction that it has. But the fact that needs to be focused on here is that he needs to unload this thing asap and he's asking for help.

There isn't much I can do, myself. I threw in my 2 cents already. The guy already wrote up a post for selling it. Maybe he could check out the "wanted" section to see if there are any potential customers if he didn't already go there.
Myself, I would prepare for the worst...meaning that the doll didn't sell by the time it was completed. And preparing would be looking into a storage unit, or asking a good friend if he could store it at his place. Or look into online barter sites if there are any, Craigslist if you want to take it that far.
I'd look into the "sold" section to get an idea how long it took other Real Dolls to sell, what they went for, and the condition at time of sale and how that affected the sale price, just to get an idea what the potential wait time may be if the doll has to be in my possession after its complete.
I think he already did this, but try to talk with Abyss and see if he can pay for the doll, have them keep the doll, put it in their pre-made for sale section (at a lower cost inevitably) while holding onto the doll at their facilities, and once the doll sold, Abyss keeps a holding/storage/selling fee, and send him back the difference.
He would lose money but the doll would get sold, probably a lot faster since potential customers would be perusing that section of the Real Doll website, Real Doll gets a little bit more $ for going through the trouble, and he wouldn't have to go through the trouble of storing it.

Other than what I said here, plan on updating the "for sale" post with lots of pics (without taking the doll out of the box if possible) look for a place to store it so you are prepared if it comes to that, accept the fact that there's a 99% chance you will most likely lose a bit of money on the sale (the more you take off from the original price the faster it will probably sell), and accept the possibility that it may be months before a buyer comes along.

That Jessica RD was at $4,500 last time I saw that for sale post, and that was up for a while.

That's all I have.

haremlover · Post by **haremlover** » Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:44 pm

In order to keep threads able to be perused without a lot of clicking from page to page I wonder if people might be able, if quoting a previous post, just to quote the sentence or two or point upon which they are inspired to reply? Quoting a whole post in full is unnecessary.

On the point above that the only reason why a man and woman gets together is sex is rather a limiting viewpoint. Sex is only one factor of life and there are many couples for whom what binds them together is that their circumstances walk together and they are best friends meeting circumstances together. That binds together more than sex, especially if sexual libido disparities can be channelled constructively into the fun of a doll. It's in that way that dolls are able to keep marriages and relationships together. So many marriages start to fall apart during the sexual desert of pregnancy and child-rearing, and do so unnecessarily.

It's for this reason that a doll even if in a crate in a shed can give security to a woman that the man's not going to do something stupid and run off with another woman.

It's for that reason that in the particular set of circumstances of this thread I'd make an embarrassed big joke about the situation and perhaps even ask the girlfriend what best course of action to take. If the purchase order isn't shifted onto a new buyer that crate is going to arrive. Better for man and woman to face the circumstance together and make a joint decision.

On the UK forum at the moment there's an OR big bust lady for sale because the wife doesn't like the doll around. To be absolutely honest whilst photographically I like dolls who are natural as people, being a red blooded male I'm capable of being attracted by a well endowed doll

So I expressed interest, but sent the bloke photos of my dolls as humans coming to life such as http://www.sianhaydenphotographer.com/w ... knowledge/ and a PDF of my book about the doll who comes to life to print out and leave around for wife to see . . . and perhaps his wife's mind might be changed.

The prejudice about dolls is entirely due to the focus on sex and hidden guilt of a sexdoll. But if a doll is simply a doll who can come to life and inspire art, role-play, imagination, there's nothing to be guilty about.

The panic in this thread is caused by
1. Abyss not being able to cooperate, which in my opinion isn't very helpful
2. the consequences of the doll not being sold by the time it arrives and then
3. fear of what the woman might think if she finds out that the man might have had what might have been regarded as a sexual deviation before they met
and for the reasons above (3) is a wholly unnecessary neurosis.

If to be sold at a high price the chances are that she won't be sold by the time she's made.

So in that case (3) will have to be embraced. I hope that Sian's photographic art website might be the antedote and I will willingly send my book on PDF if it will help.

If the money's not important, then give her away. It will make someone's day, if not their lives.

As someone to whom many people have been kind in the past and to whom I cannot repay, I repay past kindness by giving it on. And that http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=122&t=83446

is transformational.

Men and women fall apart because they each expect to take and they don't give enough.

Best wishes

Harem

Stewie studmuffin · Post by **Stewie studmuffin** » Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:54 pm

I still think it's a mistake to not keep the doll. But that's just me. It's up to the the op to do what he thinks is best. But since he is determined that he can't keep the doll, the best that he can hope for at this point is to not lose any more money than he has to.
And the best way to do that is to get ABYSS to sell it for him before he takes delivery. I would call them everyday and beg, plead and even cry if that's what it will take. Even if he loses money, it won't be as bad if he takes delivery and has to sell it himself. He would be guaranteed to lose half of his original investment if he did that. If not more.

Used dolls are hard to unload these days due to market saturation and less expensive imports. Hell, I have a 2014 production doll (not a RealDoll) that I paid $2500 for and can't even get 500!

I just wanted to add that even if a doll is "unused," it won't matter. Once a person has a doll in their physical possession, then people will ASSUME that the doll has been used as they would have no way of knowing otherwise. And that's what will hurt the value. So taking delivery of a doll is just like driving a new car off the dealer's lot. Even if you live next door to the dealership; the value has already gone down. :drinking:

haremlover · Post by **haremlover** » Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:58 pm

Stewie studmuffin wrote:Used dolls are hard to unload these days due to market saturation and less expensive imports. Hell, I have a 2014 production doll (not a RealDoll) that I paid $2500 for and can't even get 5oo!

That's a reason why I gave my doll away - and made someone happy as a result. A friend for life.

Best wishes

Harem

Stewie studmuffin · Post by **Stewie studmuffin** » Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:05 pm

I don't mean to derail things, but I just had to say that is one beautiful doll that Harem posted above! Such a shame that something so beautiful can cause so much drama!

Now back to the regularly scheduled thread!

Stewie studmuffin · Post by **Stewie studmuffin** » Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:11 pm

haremlover wrote:
Stewie studmuffin wrote:Used dolls are hard to unload these days due to market saturation and less expensive imports. Hell, I have a 2014 production doll (not a RealDoll) that I paid $2500 for and can't even get 5oo!
That's a reason why I gave my doll away - and made someone happy as a result. A friend for life.

Best wishes

Harem

I may end up doing just that if she doesn't sell. Dropping the price much lower will be practically giving her away anyway. Such is the reality of the used doll market.

rubherkitty · Post by **rubherkitty** » Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:54 pm

Stewie studmuffin wrote: I have a 2014 production doll (not a RealDoll) that I paid $2500 for and can't even get 5oo!

Where's your for sale ad?
I check 4 pages in the market place. Back to Oct 14th of last yr and don't see it.

Stewie studmuffin · Post by **Stewie studmuffin** » Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:00 pm

rubherkitty wrote:
Stewie studmuffin wrote: I have a 2014 production doll (not a RealDoll) that I paid $2500 for and can't even get 5oo!
Where's your for sale ad?
I check 4 pages in the market place. Back to Oct 14th of last yr and don't see it.

She is on consignment with a vendor who is no longer listed on the forum. But the guy who runs the place is still a member as far as I know. Why he hasn't tried to sell her here is a mystery?

I could probably sell her myself now that I know how to post pictures, but I don't have anywhere to store her if he ships her back to me.

ilikedolls123 · Post by **ilikedolls123** » Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:10 pm

Do not lose all hope; this guy unloaded his RD in a day:

http://www.dollforum.com/forum/viewtopi ... 22&t=76312

CF · Post by CF » Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:36 pm

I don't know if it will offer any consolation or insights, but there's a discussion about this sort of girlfriends vs. dolls concern underway at http://www.dollforum.com/forum/viewtopi ... 16&t=80584

Ownerfckdoll · Post by **Ownerfckdoll** » Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:18 pm

Stewie studmuffin wrote:I still think it's a mistake to not keep the doll.

Yep, gut check is telling me I got a bad feeling about this. Don't know the guy, don't know the girl, don't know the relationship. So I'm just talking out my ass, but wanting to get a doll for sexual purposes probably means he doesn't mind porn, kinky shit, etc. But now he's in a relationship with a "conservative" girl who would freak out if she even knew he ordered the doll (and didn't even take possession of it)? I'm guessing she's probably anti-porn and may not be the most adventurous in the bedroom.

Titanic, meet iceberg.

But then again, who knows. Good luck with that almost doll banger dude!

ilikedolls123 · Post by **ilikedolls123** » Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:39 pm

Wow. A lot of assumptions are being made in order to fill the gaps in the story here, and all those gaps are being filled with conclusions that lead to the belief that the guy is wrong for selling the doll. Here is what I don't get...if people here feel SOOOO strongly that a guy who is trying to sell his doll is making a monumental mistake, then why single this guy out from other sellers???
If you feel the need to talk someone out of trying to sell their doll then why not flood the "For Sale" board with posts telling others who are selling their dolls that they are damn fools or making a mistake?? I've seen quite a few for sale posts where the owner had the doll for only a few days, and even trying to sell a doll on the first day they got it.
What is so unique in this case that the guy gets to have the honor of having his judgement questioned by everyone?
Because if you have a valid answer to that question then there should be no reason whatsoever to NOT get over to the "For Sale" board and start questioning the decision of all the other doll sellers because I'm sure there are others who sell their dolls for the exact same reason as this guy.