First of all, my intent is not to beat up on Jiusheng (though it may seem that way in text), infact it is the opposite. I have been very impressed with Jiusheng's designs and have been following them for 3 + years. Jiusheng has been here and elsewhere for some time (years), but nobody seemed to care about them (very few had or posted them here, and very little interest was shown) until the MyLoliWaifu branded 148 B was "discovered" by a few western customers. In reality, the MyLoliWaifu version had existed for a significant amount of time (I had been watching it), but MyLoliWaifu is unmarketable/unsellable in some western markets and the majority of their line is generally unable to be posted here for obvious reasons (which is why the 148 B took so long to be "discovered"). It wasn't until Jiusheng cross marketed the MyLoliWaifu148 B with Jiusheng's branded (more mature heads), that Jiusheng gained any real traction in the west and relatively just recently, despite being around for some years. I have had the opportunity to see and touch multiple Jiusheng dolls in person, both silicone and TPE and I currently own a Jiusheng product. For years I've said they have the most detailed TPE dolls in the industry and they are underrated. In short, I wan't to see Jiusheng succeed but they do have room for improvement and hole size/shape is the major area to improve imo.
That being said..
DocWen wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:22 am As Jiusheng Doll shows in their post above this one, the holes while appearing small when "at rest" (I get very excited by Etsuko's little rosebud of a butthole) actually stretch quite nicely and accommodate a good sized penis.
Respectfully DW, what they show is a bit deceptive. Not that they are intentionally trying to be deceptive, but the actual entrance hole is recessed into and shrouded by the labia (which is good imo) making it unable to be seen in the .gif. I don't think there is as much value in that .gif as there would appear to be for those who are unaware of the recessed actual entrance hole. This is one of the problems though; people see what appears to be a larger, funnel shaped (false or faux) opening in photos and think the vaginal entrance will be accomodating and not prone to tearing. In reality, the actual entrance hole is small, with hard angles and just as prone to tear as many other manufacturers. If what was easily visible was the actual entrance to the vaginal cavity, the design would likely be nearly perfect in regards to ease of entry and resistance to tearing; the legs could easily be adjusted to adjust tightness, from easy for nearly anyone to enter to impossibly tight. For those who don't have a Jiusheng, see the photos below to see what I mean..
Torso version of what appears to be the 148 B.
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Cavity details showing very small actual vaginal entrance.
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Silicone 148 B
extremely small vaginal entrance, must be torn to enter.
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TPE 148 B small actual vaginal entrance visible, recessed inside labia.
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DocWen wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:22 am I've tried both of my Etsuko's (MLW 148b) holes and they stretch quite nicely to accommodate me. The anus IS tighter, but I didn't feel at any time that I was going to tear it.
Sounds good DW and maybe they updated it or you got an exception, but I've seen at least a couple of complaints of excessive tightness and resulting tearing at the vaginal and anal entrances. According to at least two 148 B owners, the anal cavity is the looser entrance of the two and is evidenced by the photo below.
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DocWen wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:22 am (I won't comment on feel and pleasure as it's very
subjective and I generally am not that into having sex with my dolls as I don't feel the squeeze is worth the juice on any of the 8 dolls I've own from 4 or 5 different brands)
I know exactly what you mean here. That being said, imo a doll should be useable for sex for those that do or want to use the doll for sex. It doesn't matter how good the doll looks if it is unuseable for those wanting a sex doll. Unfortunately due to inconsistencies in usability (hole sizing, placement etc.) between manufacturers (and even between one manufacturer's models), every purchase is a roll of the dice and a very expensive one at that. These dolls could and should be useable for nearly everyone (tightness) while also resistant to tearing (reduction of the need for excessive stretching for use and the elimination of stress risers). These things can easily be accomplished (not just Jiusheng, but most manufacturers) by:
- Manufacturers need to
stop just pressing send on these designs. Make half torso prototype molds to test LHP, make insert/masturbater style prototypes of proposed hole/cavity sizes and send them out to multiple real world users to test for feedback before commiting to a final design. I know producing a body mold is not cheap, but here is the solution to avoid commiting to a full mold that will be labeled unuseable and frustrating by customers.
- Making the entrance holes and cavity larger. Tightness can always be adjusted by the user by manipulating the leg spread, effectively accomodating nearly anyone. You can't however make an excessively tight hole/cavity larger, at least not without risking tearing.
Or possibly the best answer..
- Make multiple cavity mold designs and give the customer the choice of sizing. The cavity mold inserts can (if they aren't already) be threaded into the body mold making them changeable based on the customers order. This can easily be accomplished with the existing body mold. The prototype testing insert/masturbators mentioned above could be produced and sold to prospective customers in order to help in making a purchase decision.
- Eliminate hard angles (stress riser). There should be no hard angles, especially at the entrance. Entrance holes need to be rounded at the edges to reduce the likelyhood of tearing. See photo below.
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There is no reason why these issues should even be a thing, let alone common imo.
This and softness (which appears to possibly have been addressed) is what keeps me from buying the 148 B, 168 C or anyother silicone Jiusheng at this time.
Yes and in my opinion still Jiusheng best body ..Just the attention to detail, everywhere you look you see its just nicely sculpted no tube/stick arms here .. the shoulders the arms the legs the torso the wrist, all the muscle detail, all the realistic touches are there, amazing sculpt, just a nice believable balanced body.
Stand tall, wear a crown, and be sweet on the inside.
