Another WM 159C Review

Mister Bungle 157 · Post by **Mister Bungle 157** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:57 pm

I see that she and Agnes are holding hands already.

She's got lovely proportions for sure.

nicvncnt · Post by **nicvncnt** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:07 pm

Nirodha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:49 pmHey nicvncnt You're right Agnès not only looks taller than 160 cm, she actually is. Agnès is about 163 cm with shoes. The 159C is approx. 160 cm with shoes.

Thanks for your reply. It's very strange how these things change because 5 years ago the dolls all seemed to be 2-3cms shorter than their "official" heights, now they're 1-3cms taller.

Big_Easy · Post by **Big_Easy** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:34 pm

Congrats and a great review Nirodha, happy to hear she made it home with no major incidents and that the LHP was "as advertised"

such a great idea to showcase her next to Agnes. showing different dolls standing next to each and the nice dimension photos of some dolls i've seen from Mandos are some of the most useful items when trying to decide on a purchase. It adds so much perspective. i'd like to see all manufacturers do more of this.

Cheers

SkyWalker206 · Post by **SkyWalker206** » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:58 am

do they have gel breast option?

Nirodha · Post by **Nirodha** » Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:17 am

Mister Bungle 157 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:57 pm I see that she and Agnes are holding hands already.
She's got lovely proportions for sure.

Haha I hoped someone would comment on this

I agree the proportions are very lovely

nicvncnt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:07 pm
Nirodha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:49 pmHey nicvncnt You're right Agnès not only looks taller than 160 cm, she actually is. Agnès is about 163 cm with shoes. The 159C is approx. 160 cm with shoes.
Thanks for your reply. It's very strange how these things change because 5 years ago the dolls all seemed to be 2-3cms shorter than their "official" heights, now they're 1-3cms taller.

I have no experience with that.
However, as soon as Agnès arrived, I noticed that she was taller than 160 cm, because I'm only 170 cm myself. I don't know what could be the reason, maybe because of the head size/shape?
I would have to swap the heads and measure them just for fun ^^

Big_Easy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:34 pm Congrats and a great review Nirodha, happy to hear she made it home with no major incidents and that the LHP was "as advertised"
such a great idea to showcase her next to Agnes. showing different dolls standing next to each and the nice dimension photos of some dolls i've seen from Mandos are some of the most useful items when trying to decide on a purchase. It adds so much perspective. i'd like to see all manufacturers do more of this.

Cheers

Thank you Big_Easy.
I completely agree with you. I also really enjoy looking at photos of different dolls side by side as they can be important in making a purchase decision.

SkyWalker206 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:58 am do they have gel breast option?

Yes she has gel breasts!

SkyWalker206 · Post by **SkyWalker206** » Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:29 am

BTW, does WM have smaller head options. I think the head is slightly un-proportional to its shoulder length. (maybe it was because the angle?)
I hope that I was wrong about it.
Again, congratulations having your new doll.
Thanks

Nirodha · Post by **Nirodha** » Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:40 am

SkyWalker206 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:29 am BTW, does WM have smaller head options. I think the head is slightly un-proportional to its shoulder length. (maybe it was because the angle?)
I hope that I was wrong about it.
Again, congratulations having your new doll.
Thanks

I'm not sure if I understood your question correctly. The head on the left is more oval and the head on the right more round, both heads are suitable for dolls over 140 cm.

I just measured it. The head #398 is about 2-3 cm longer than the head #319!

Ghosta · Post by **Ghosta** » Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:51 am

Well done review Nirodha. Was the 159cm_G available when you made your purchase? Thanks for the 160cm_A comparison. Both are beautiful in their own way. This is a very imformative and helpful post. Beautiful pics.

Nirodha · Post by **Nirodha** » Wed Apr 13, 2022 8:01 am

gosta75 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:51 am Well done review Nirodha. Was the 159cm_G available when you made your purchase? Thanks for the 160cm_A comparison. Both are beautiful in their own way. This is a very imformative and helpful post. Beautiful pics.

Thank you gosta75

No the 159G version was not available when I made my purchase. That model looks amazing too! Personally I prefer smaller boobs.

Fixer206 · Post by **Fixer206** » Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:20 pm

Hey Niro!

Just found your post. I'm happy to see that she came in and looks beautiful.

ColColt · Post by **ColColt** » Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:57 pm

Wish I knew I could hack that 80 pounds I'd have one on order...beautiful, natural sculpt.

crushthem · Post by **crushthem** » Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:04 pm

She looks amazing!!
Do you mind sharing her nipple size?
I kinda need to decide in between the 3cm or 4cm options.

Useless · Post by **Useless** » Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:40 pm

@Nirodha

That shoulder issue, is there some tweak of the shrugging shoulder that might minimize that?

I too have found no pictures of an covered shrugged shoulder in any of their photosets of this doll and I'm curious.

I've requested one of these ladies to join me in my home and would like to know what I'm in for, the dealer i contacted after i saw your post of the raised arms was met with the response that" the shrugging shoulders can be tricky", but the different torso length might also have an effect, and obviously you've no problem with the arm on the 160

@Mandos you input would be great as well.

Nirodha · Post by **Nirodha** » Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:24 am

crushthem wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:04 pm She looks amazing!!
Do you mind sharing her nipple size?
I kinda need to decide in between the 3cm or 4cm options.

Hey crushthem her nipple size is 3 cm.

Useless wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:40 pm @Nirodha

That shoulder issue, is there some tweak of the shrugging shoulder that might minimize that?

I too have found no pictures of an covered shrugged shoulder in any of their photosets of this doll and I'm curious.

I've requested one of these ladies to join me in my home and would like to know what I'm in for, the dealer i contacted after i saw your post of the raised arms was met with the response that" the shrugging shoulders can be tricky", but the different torso length might also have an effect, and obviously you've no problem with the arm on the 160

@Mandos you input would be great as well.

Hey Useless, This has nothing to do with the shrugging shoulders, both models in the photo have them. It's due to the skeleton being embedded too far down.

When I read your question at work earlier, I actually wanted to answer that I personally don't think it's that bad, because the 159C is awesome overall.

Now that I'm at home, I've taken the matter up again to see if moving her shoulders changes the problem. It doesn't really do that, it just shifts the problem.

And in doing so, I encountered an even bigger problem, which has nothing to do with the optics, but with the durability of the doll.

Because her "shoulder bones" sit so deep that you can feel them very clearly and hard in her armpits!!! The TPE is only a few millimeters thick at this point (3-4 if at all)

If you consider how much tension there is on the TPE when you stretch the arms, whether to the side or to the front, I see a risk that the TPE in the armpit will tear sooner or later.

Of course I don't know if my doll is an isolated case or if it's a design flaw.

So it might be really appropriate to hear something from the official side here.

The fact that the skeleton is generally too low can also be seen in the neck. There a recess had to be carved in the factory in order to be able to get to the screw connection at all.

The arm directed forward and a little to the side:

My index finger touches the top of the skeleton and my thumb touches the bottom:

This is the neck of my 160A:

And this the neck of my 159C:

nicvncnt · Post by **nicvncnt** » Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:31 am

Nirodha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:24 amI encountered an even bigger problem, which has nothing to do with the optics, but with the durability of the doll.

Because her "shoulder bones" sit so deep that you can feel them very clearly and hard in her armpits!!! The TPE is only a few millimeters thick at this point (3-4 if at all)

Slight misalignments of the skeleton are not unusual and generally cause no problems, but it really sounds as if in this case they have fitted the wrong size skeleton for her size. I would approach your vendor about this because as you say it will impact the durability of the doll.