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Randyb100,randyb100 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:56 pm
The cross between the two, the visual and the physical, would be the best approach and I bet a real money maker. Imagine a porn simulation where real chicks do what you want and then you can feel them via a doll and they react to your touch. It wouldn't even be that difficult to do but nobody's done it.
While dolls are advancing rapidly in terms of realism, I think it will take a long time to master the robotics. So I agree with you that both VR and physical dolls should be mixed together. I think VR/AI technology will advance more rapidly than physical robotics capabilities. If I had $ I would start up a VR/AI software company just for doll lovers.
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This is bit like the chicken and egg thing...Chompers wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 4:37 pmRandyb100,randyb100 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:56 pm
The cross between the two, the visual and the physical, would be the best approach and I bet a real money maker. Imagine a porn simulation where real chicks do what you want and then you can feel them via a doll and they react to your touch. It wouldn't even be that difficult to do but nobody's done it.
While dolls are advancing rapidly in terms of realism, I think it will take a long time to master the robotics. So I agree with you that both VR and physical dolls should be mixed together. I think VR/AI technology will advance more rapidly than physical robotics capabilities. If I had $ I would start up a VR/AI software company just for doll lovers.
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If you would have a doll, which is able to perform all the tasks happening in some VR simulation, would you really need the VR?
Only exception would be AR, where for instance the environment could be changed while your fully robotic doll would present herself as she is.
For full VR realism, you don't need any doll. What you need is suit/device/environment which provides you all the haptic feedback what is going on in VR environment. The road to that is in very early stages, but baby steps have been taken. Nowdays rather immersive "VR fun" can be had with educational VR vid + good haptics device + well made funscript. For those who want most immersive experience and also the choice to have some interaction, VAM (in VR) + HD + control plugins is the way to proceed.
However if skipping the usage of currently available haptics devices, I can see some use cases for doll torsos, traditional VR vids and good imagination. Also in VAM if you would use headless torso, position it exactly as you see something in appear in VR and do the moving part yourself, there would be some "realism" involved. However as soon "she" wants to move, you're back to reality.
What comes to actual dolls, for now would just love to see more of them getting certain level of decent AI for simple but somewhat meaningful interactive daily conversations. Breathing option is also kewl but what comes to face expressions, eye movements or body movements, the technology is so far from realism, that currently it is hurting more than helping... Again just my opinion. My take is that when the AI improves enough, remaining technology should be built around that - not other way around. However huge problem with AI is the privacy factor. You can't really install supercomputer inside a doll and you probably don't wanna connect your doll to internet, specially if it has some sensors to observe what is happening around. But then again if some people are willing to let robotic vacuum cleaners (with cameras connecting to who knows where) to their apartments, I guess the next generation of doll lovers will be totally ok with sharing their personal moments with the world and AI dream can proceed In reality we just have to wait that the tech improves, powerful computers get even smaller and that privacy issues will get resolved. Perhaps you could install the "brains" to your own home computer (or separate computer "box") and keep the data transfers securely inside the LAN.
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I've tried porn and H-games with VR, but honestly I prefer non-VR. I think it's just not there yet, but it could be with a lot more time.
Also, I really like to play H-games (or skyrim, the sims, etc. with adult mods) side by side with my wife. VR is much more of a solo experience, and it put up a wall between my gaming partner and I.
Really, I think AR is going to be a much more impactful tech on dolls. Being able to see your doll smile, moan, or ahegao in real-time while you're fucking her, wearing some kind of glasses - that would rule.
Also, let's be real - I'm much more skeptical of putting my dick in some kind of haptic feedback VR device than I am of putting it in an oversized fleshlight with a face. Technology can go badly sometimes, and that's a high price to pay.
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Great thinking there. This kind of AR implementation might work well and should be doable with current generation graphics cards (and technologies) already. Not sure if there are powerful enough AR classes yet, but loving the idea nevertheless. All it really takes is the working hardware and idea pitched to always so creative open source community This would also allow changing the entire appearance of the doll (in the range of dolls original proportions).baphometric wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:46 pm Really, I think AR is going to be a much more impactful tech on dolls. Being able to see your doll smile, moan, or ahegao in real-time while you're fucking her, wearing some kind of glasses - that would rule.
and as final relief...
It might be dangerous to try and use such device with one's real world partner, because "From now on I want to watch you as drooling Tifa going eyes crossed" wont probably sink in very well
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Can you PM me those links pleeeeeease?3dprinteddoll wrote: ↑Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:21 pm Some days ago I've found a guy who does VR intimacy in Maya, not many videos, but quite cool I must admit. I will not post links, but he (anielszal) has a profile on xvideos and patreon.
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If you guys havent tried it, you should.
Its pretty amazing. Even if it is a bit older.
Illusionsoft is awesome and their newset game i have "honey select 2 libido dx" also has vr support but i have yet to try it.
Not sure if either is still for sale on steam, but i know the full xxx crack for steam is out there, and im sure f95 can help you find it other ways.
I really need to get a doll soon.
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that would be a very good idea but I think a good starting point would be if sexdoll companies posted vr videos of their dolls so that potential buyers could view the dolls in vr before deciding on which doll to buy. People could view the dolls while the vendors voice tells you the pros and cons of their dolls and maybe deminstraight joint movements and doll movement.Chompers wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 4:37 pmRandyb100,randyb100 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:56 pm
The cross between the two, the visual and the physical, would be the best approach and I bet a real money maker. Imagine a porn simulation where real chicks do what you want and then you can feel them via a doll and they react to your touch. It wouldn't even be that difficult to do but nobody's done it.
While dolls are advancing rapidly in terms of realism, I think it will take a long time to master the robotics. So I agree with you that both VR and physical dolls should be mixed together. I think VR/AI technology will advance more rapidly than physical robotics capabilities. If I had $ I would start up a VR/AI software company just for doll lovers.
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Probably better leave the buissness end to the imagination though
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Dastardlydave wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:52 amthat would be a very good idea but I think a good starting point would be if sexdoll companies posted vr videos of their dolls so that potential buyers could view the dolls in vr before deciding on which doll to buy. People could view the dolls while the vendors voice tells you the pros and cons of their dolls and maybe deminstraight joint movements and doll movement.Chompers wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 4:37 pmRandyb100,randyb100 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:56 pm
The cross between the two, the visual and the physical, would be the best approach and I bet a real money maker. Imagine a porn simulation where real chicks do what you want and then you can feel them via a doll and they react to your touch. It wouldn't even be that difficult to do but nobody's done it.
While dolls are advancing rapidly in terms of realism, I think it will take a long time to master the robotics. So I agree with you that both VR and physical dolls should be mixed together. I think VR/AI technology will advance more rapidly than physical robotics capabilities. If I had $ I would start up a VR/AI software company just for doll lovers.
- Chompers
Probably better leave the buissness end to the imagination though
That would be a huge help if manufacturers started providing VR of their dolls.
I would have thought a crafty reseller who does in-county pre-inspection could do a VR "reality capture" scan of the dolls to provide to users as a paid service. Would be great to "experience" a doll in VR for a $30(?) fee vs. a $3,000 purchase that has a chance of leaving you disappointed.
Also, imagine being able to evaluate different virtual hairstyles, body colors, or clothes before you purchase. (Check out the end of this video.)
https://youtu.be/9kIPixG8GHA
But I think manufacturers might not like this b/c of the counterfeiters, but it would be good for the consumer.
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I have VR. Even tried VR porn. Problem with VR porn is well... there's nothing to hold. Next you need to think smart when you do the 'business'. It seems wise to me to simply have a condom on, or use one of those disembodied pussy things as you do the girl in VR. The benefit of VR is you get reaction and sounds.taylormayd wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:01 pm If you had to choose one, which would you choose? I think VR Porn / Games might be getting to a point where they can fulfill all of a man's sexual needs by themselves!
Still doesn't really work that well, since nothing to hold and you aren't actually doing it to her, (the exercise of your body, involved just isn't there) but I guess it's something. Not enough though.
An actual doll you can hold has to be better and you're actually interacting physically with it, although little reaction.
However, right now, even though I don't have a doll yet, I reckon a physical doll works better. But I'll let you know when I actually have it.
I'm interested in testing how using an actual doll simultaneously with VR will work. Surely it'll work in a basic missionary position or other static position with a doll woman and with a VR woman in the same position? It could work incredibly well or be the worst idea ever.
p.s. There's a couple of VR games where it's not just about sex. Some you can interact with. Even Fallout4VR or Skyrim VR allows you to have a romance and interact and there's literally no sex in that. I found it quite effective when interacting with Curie in VR, if you have VR, try it. There's a fair few choices in partners, though you'll need to find some of them. Sometimes I've even felt pretty close to Curie and wished I could give her a hug.
Skyrim actually has a mod that allows you to verbally talk and NPCs and romantic interests will react, including Followers. It is surprisingly good. Don't dismiss VR so readily, people.
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Like I said...This works really well...The doll/oculus2 combo is a winner for sure!Alottahope wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:49 pm I have found the combination of VR and a doll works quite well! The Oculus 2 provides nice sharp images and VRBangers has a huge variety of categories of super hot girls in 3D VR. They come up and whisper in your ears and stuff. Very real! If you watch the VR porn sluts while having your doll in front of you…Well in my opinion, it is quit fascinating. Just know that in each video is a routine. It’s usually blow job then doggy then missionary then blow job. Knowing this ahead of time allows you to set your doll for the desirable pose where you want to fill your doll with seeds of love.
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BigJoeBuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:26 pm My doll, I can see all of Riley Reid's pubic hair follicles In VR but I can't eat her pussy, I can eat Nikki's just fine.
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