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gogodolls wrote:Wow! Your concept looks promising! The interior surface of the mold appears to be quite smooth. :thumbs_up:
Being retired, Blender is one of my favorite hobbies during the winter, but I'm still in the learning phase. :whistle:
Blender https://www.blender.org/ is a must, you can also check out Daz 3D and/or makehuman, which could be useful at start:
https://www.daz3d.com/ http://www.makehumancommunity.org/


1:1 foot part (12cm x 7cm x 9cm block)


60 cm figure glued parts - the behind, the larget part height is 8 cm.
I am not sure if the vertical stripes here (that are not print layers), are due to low poly 3d object or just some issue/artefact of FDM printouts, but I guess this is due to low poly model, and can be easily fixed, sometimes I forget to do some surface subdivision and smoothing.

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And today I am printing similar foot-fingerholes mold in wood-based biodegradable filament on 0.5 nozzle, hopefully it will be a successful print (wood filament is more troublesome than PLA, but still worth tryng out due to greater sandability):

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The interior is looking weird but this is print in progress, and I have set very low infill (5%). The lower the infill the larger the mesh inside.

update: the print was successful

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I think that doing trial-and-error smoothing out attempts, on partial food mold is not too efficient, because I have to destroy the mold quite often and it takes some time to print. Plus the larger the mold the more silicone wasted.

So now I am now think that it is better to create some smallest possible two-parts mold (+ base/holder) like this 1:1 scale big toehole and printing it in many copies, to smooth out the interiors using various techniques.

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Yea i have about 100 Women Hight resolutions with DAZ 3D, my last render :
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3dprinteddoll wrote:And today I am printing similar foot-fingerholes mold in wood-based biodegradable filament on 0.5 nozzle, hopefully it will be a successful print (wood filament is more troublesome than PLA, but still worth tryng out due to greater sandability):

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The interior is looking weird but this is print in progress, and I have set very low infill (5%). The lower the infill the larger the mesh inside.

update: the print was successful
Wou yo uare a Problem with your Printer..... Inside is soo bad....

Check Retractations may be?
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ADHERAQ777 wrote:Yea i have about 100 Women Hight resolutions with DAZ 3D, my last render :
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Nice Daz3d renders and work!

I don't know if you shared this before on dollforum, but there should be some forum thread with Daz3d babes or we should create one, because I would like to add some too!

Ok here I have found one:

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I have just did some small revival of 2017 thread and added some fresh 3d babe there :)

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Check Retractations may be?
I have disabled retraction for a purpose in case of wood filament printing, it is easy to guess why :) Anyway it looks good on outside, later I'll post some more photos of this and upcoming prints.

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Here is my basic mold for the smooth out trial-and-error approach, I plan to print many of those and use various things to make this smooth (including elimination of seam):

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The best would be to do that without the need to touch it (because the other fingers are small and tight), but it might be difficult.
I might try to fill the gaps with powder first.
The wood-based filament tends to create more gaps than PLA, but less profound hills/layer steps which is good.
After doing this I am not sure what kind of liquid filler could work best. I might try again with wax + oil solution, then apply some kind of powder for separation, so it wont dilute silicone next time.
The other methods are using certain primers/fillers (in spray, thick liquid or paste form), probabyl acrylic/resin, I think it is better than a wax/oil approach.

Any suggestions on any other specific chemicals I could use are welcome.

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As I tell see again your "Print setting" the result is very bad.... :haha4:

later Big problem... You layer is not welded you not see???
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ADHERAQ777 wrote:As I tell see again your "Print setting" the result is very bad.... :haha4:

later Big problem... You layer is not welded you not see???
This doesn't matter at this point, as this is one of my first wood prints, and even with perfect optimized FDM print on 0.5 mm nozzle there is still the same smoothing out post-processing work to do. I'm not gonna be doing now over-optimization of prints, if that cannot save me work. I'm starting from most important things. I will optimize the print process later. Optimization costs trial-and-error prints and time, and still there will be layers to fix and smoothing to do in case of FDM. I want to know how to do smoothing out, on prints that are not overoptimized, beause even in optimized prints you still have seams, layering, warping and other imperfections to post-process. The more imperfections now I have, the better for checking which smoothing out approach works best. And there is a very recent success anyway, as those are my very first wood-based prints, and they started to come out now without jamming the nozzle.

If you can do better at start, then launch the same print in wood, and post some photos and share your settings, I would welcome construcitive advice, instead of commenting, how something is bad in your opinion with the print. I can send you the STL, you'll do the same and show it, then I would welcome exact print settings provided by you, so I can save time later on further optimization. Otherwise I'll think that you are simply trying to troll in my thread and progress for some reason, instead of making your own doll and showing us your progress :) Thanks.

I am now proceeding to printing more of those mini-molds, in about a week I'll post more on my smoothing out attempts.

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No it is not Optimisation...

You have just a BAD Parameters...

No print is not as that for all.... xD

No I can't give you my parameter, all Printer is different, and same Printer has not parameter.... Many User make modification, temperature is not same, all is different....

As I tell you, Woods is not make for Mechanical, I don't understand why you want use this Wire only make for decoration.... You make Mold, not decoration....

My Print in ASA/PLA/NYLON CARBON is perfect, I am Designer mechanical since 15 years it is my JOB. :haha4:

You don't listen advice just....
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yesterday I printed that, in ASA, more difficult that WOODS.... (Support for High Heels for Dolls).

Weld layers is very very important, if not just trash all Part, later all layer will take off.

Fit "Extruder", temperature....
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ADHERAQ777 wrote:No it is not Optimisation...

You have just a BAD Parameters...

No print is not as that for all.... xD

No I can't give you my parameter, all Printer is different, and same Printer has not parameter.... Many User make modification, temperature is not same, all is different....

As I tell you, Woods is not make for Mechanical, I don't understand why you want use this Wire only make for decoration.... You make Mold, not decoration....

My Print in ASA/PLA/NYLON CARBON is perfect, I am Designer mechanical since 15 years it is my JOB. :haha4:

You don't listen advice just....

Changing print settings and parameters in your 3d printing software(I use Cura) for better print results is optimization. Bad parameters are when your print fails completely, and that was not the case.

I don't need 3d printing advisor now, I have lot of youtube tutorials if I need some 3d printing tips, I am experimentalist and I need to be, because as you have said all printers are different and you can't priovide me anything that could speed up, my own parameter optimization work. And I have other things to do as well on the track so I need to set priorities, like I will do this thing now, I will do that thing later.

Anyway my progress shouldn't prohibit you, from doing your own progress, and sharing it on dollforum in your thread, with your own printer and your parameters, instead of just commenting on my own progress in my thread. As you said, all printers are different, you probably have a different one, so you don't know how to configure parameter of my 3d printer, even if you are an mechanical expert, and this kind of general comments "oh this is bad, that is bad", will not bring anything constructive to my progress, as I know that sort of basic stuff, like what are typical issues with 3d prints.

Great that you can show things you've made, so make your own forum thread and unleash your creativity and expert skills too, that is how you can gain followers and get some appreciation of your skills, work and expertise. I will not comment what you could optimize, because I don't know your 3D printer, just like you don't know mine.

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No I don't think you know....

You make error of beginner.... :haha4:

Listen just, Try to make Nice PLA in First, after try other parameter....

It is a FAIL yes, totaly, print with layers not weld is a FAIL. You need to try other fitting, after go the next, you just listen nothing, and want go to speed.... :glou:
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ADHERAQ777 wrote:No I don't think you know....

You make error of beginner.... :haha4:

Listen just, Try to make Nice PLA in First, after try other parameter....

It is a FAIL yes, totaly, print with layers not weld is a FAIL. You need to try other fitting, after go the next, you just listen nothing, and want go to speed.... :glou:
This is about my bottom-up approach to this I am taking. I don't want perfect quality 3D FDM print at start, for a mold, actually I want it with some small imperfections, to smooth it out and check what method of smoothing out works best. Post processing and smoothing out is very important to me, that's why I will not play with parameters more than I need at this step. Learning how to smooth things has higher priority to me, than perfecting FDM 3D print parameters actually, because I will assemble the mold from small parts like a hobbyist, not print whole mold in 2 large pieces like a factory, and so my assembly will create seams (rows) anyway that I will need to fill. I don't need every line perfectly welded or perfect 3d print of mold parts, as I will need to do smoothing out anyway across all the surface of assembled mold.

So I will not overfocus on minor issues with 3d prints, that working on, does not get me closer to making the doll, I am not planning to sell molds or establish 3D printing services or self-proclaimed advisory on 3d printing, so don't worry. If I will do something truely wrong, only my progress will hurt by that, nothing more. I am not planning to take any mechanical expert or 3d printing job either, because I have my own set of skills (unrealted to dolls or 3d printing) that I make a living from. And I don't need much 3d printing advise now, as saying goes "you learn as you go through", and this is very true in case of 3D printing on your own 3d printer.

This thread is just some my own demonstration to encourage enthusiasts and those who don't even have 3d printers yet, to start doing something similar, not to discuss 3d printing too much. Perhaps my nickname is confusing, but I cannot change it now.

I don't want to do too much bla-bla on this thread about minor stuff, because no photos just blabala in thread, will not attract any attention, so excuse me from disengaging from the discussion on minor print issues.

I will try to regulary post photos on my progress of doll making because that is more important to inspire others, than 10-pages long discussion about minor stuff, that no visitor will want to read. If you want to discuss minor stuff we can do this in private messages.

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