Another Problem with Xiu - Tears in Private Areas

[DocMoriarty]

After 3 days of service Xiu's anus and vagina area are pretty much torn apart and also grow together. Well i've read that high stress areas are a problem, but after 3 days? I'm certainly not what someone would call a BBC, best case like European average.

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Her anus had the size of the black circle when she was new, now the entrance twice as high. Her vagina is torn beyond the outer lips on both ends manwhile.
Also the gap between her groin and thighs already shows damage.

I mean yeah we had some fun but thats a bit extreme for my taste and i'm not aware that i did anything too hard.
What really bothers me though is, whether it's normal to take that much damage within just 3 days of service? Is that normal WM/YL quality or something else?

Hope this can be repaired with some TPE glue.

[optical delusion]

Might be totally wrong but maybe the lube your using is having a reaction. That does seem like a lot of damage

[Dollfriend]

I have always heard water based lube on TPE, anything else can degrade TPE, was this a vendor sold Doll or Ali/EBay that can also make a difference...

[DocMoriarty]

Might be totally wrong but maybe the lube your using is having a reaction. That does seem like a lot of damage

Could be but would be weird. I used baby oil sometimes and water based lube.

It's a vendor based doll, not ebay or alibaba/aliexpress (I'd never ever buy a doll or anything valuable there). But it's not one of the shops listed here. If i would have found TDF before ordering the doll i would have most likely bought from a shop listed here.

I've talked about it to the shop today and sent them some photos and they are looking at it.

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Really suspicious are IMO the tears along the gap between thighs and torso on the left and right side. They didn't get too much of whatever i used as lube and they (the tears) were present on the first day. You need to move the legs fairly wide apart and best to a 90° angle to the torso to get into the vagina at all but that should not let the doll take damage because thats her business. Thats why i think there is probably something wrong with her TPE.

Another thing could be salty sweat. I know my sweat removed her makeup at least. Yet her face didn't take any other damage so sweat and tears are prolly not related. It was very hot here during the past days (around 30° C) and workouts with her ( ) made me sweat like a <insert animal of choice here>.

In any case i hope to get some TPE glue from the shop soon to try repair her. Did i mention i'm glad i have my brats?

[jonn]

I've seen pics of this happening to other low quality knockoff dolls sold by random unverified vendors.

This does not happen to dolls sold by trusted manufacturers and vendors. In the extremely rare event that it does, I am sure the doll would be replaced free of charge.

My WM doll from 1AM which is now two years old has a similar amount of vagina tearing, although this is the result of two years of use and almost no maintenance. No vaseline, mineral oils, etc, and almost no corn starch. Water based lube. My doll has some minor signs of wear in those positions to the left and right side, but not full blown tears like yours. No anus tears either, though I've only used the anus twice.

[DocMoriarty]

I've seen pics of this happening to other low quality knockoff dolls sold by random unverified vendors.

... though I've only used the anus twice.

There we have something in common. I used her anus only twice too.

Thanks for the info and the clear statement of low quality knockoff dolls tho. I have the suspicion that this is a scam, it's at least possible. She was a tad cheaper than an YL-Doll directly from China would cost (according to their official prices). There is still the possibility that it's a original one tho, just messed up the TPE. I'm curious of the reaction of the shop, i sent them those pictures.

Another indicator for a scam is her nose. Her nose is pretty asymmetric and i don't think that was a transport caused thing. It could be a mistake while copying the original head for the mold. One more indicator is that i didn't really get the doll with the makeup and wig i ordered. Instead i got her make-upped and equipped for a typical chinese pancake face country girl.

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This is what she should have looked like. I mean it's just a wig and some makeup but it's a huge difference. We in Germany aren't really used to chinese countrygirls ya know. And notice how clearly an YL-Doll (measurements, total false weight) is advertised as WM-Doll. She has the YL-measurements tho.

[Indigo20]

@ DocMoriarty:

I would like to please you to answer the following question catalog:


I. Washing:

1. What kind of soap or shower gel are you using for your doll ?
Please make a picture of the ingredients and post it.

2. Are you using the soap/shower gel with a bit of water or have you prepared a thinned version of it ?
(4-5 parts water, 1 part soap/shower gel, mixed inside a seperate bottle)

3. Are you washing your doll gently or with a bit more force and are you using a washing glove for that ?


II. Desinfection / Cleaning:

1. Are you using pure alcohol or thinned alcohol for doing a desinfection ?

2. Are you using a product containing alcohol for desinfection, like desinfection sprays, baby wipes, toy cleaners, etc. ?

3. Are you using an alcohol free product for cleaning / desinfection ?
If so, please make a picture of the ingredients and post it.
Therewith we are able to see if it comes with the alcohol replacements ether and/or chlorine.


III. Mineral oil care:

1. Have you done an extreme care with a product containing mineral oil and afterwards the legs were left wide opened ?
Extreme care =
4-5 applications of baby oil within 10-15 hours
3-4 very thick applications of vaseline / Nivea Creme within 2 days


IV. Other products:

1. Have you used any other products that are not mentioned from the question catalog ?
Maybe a "recommended" product for stain removing or solvent compounds ?
If so, please tell us what it was.

2. Have you used wet condoms ?

[DocMoriarty]

1.1 to 1.3 Didn't wash her fully so far, just parts of the face and orifices. I bought a liquid anti bacterial soap for that that i intend to use, just a bit of it in some water along with a sponge. I treated her orifices before i used them with babyoil applied with a bottle brush that has a sponge on it's tip.

2.1 - 2.3 None yet. I'm not a fan of too much desinfection. I would only use alcohol as preparation before glueing.

3.1 I used baby oil multiple times within a few hours but i left her legs wide open only for when i needed it. I straighten her legs usually because otherwise she takes a tad too much space in the bed. But the tears along her thighs were there even before that happened, i think that happened already the first time and there she had only 1 partial baby oil treatment best case. Only tried vaseline once in her vagina to 'glue in' a female condome which didn't really work too well. The female condome had some lubricant but it was best case a little humid. The next i tried it it was cleaned with normal hand soap and no more lubricant. I think the 2nd time i used baby oil too to make it slippery to get it inside her vagina.

4. No other products so far.

I know that silicon and TPE are 2 very different things, but my 2 JM-Doll minis got kinda the same treatment+washing in the bathtub and have not the slightest problem.

[Indigo20]

Thanks for the answered questions.
You made everything right

The quality of the TPE blend is not good.
It is too weak in structure to keep a stretched position over time and in addition there is not enough TPE material used.
I call such incisions "ruptures" (Aufplatzer).
The edge is smooth and inside the "rupture" you are able to see the stretched structure.
It could be a cheap copy and also a lemon (Montagsprodukt), because there are sometimes quality issues and inaccuracies at the factory.

[DocMoriarty]

Thanks for the answered questions.
You made everything right

The quality of the TPE blend is not good.
It is too weak in structure to keep a stretched position over time and in addition there is not enough TPE material used.
I call such incisions "ruptures" (Aufplatzer).
The edge is smooth and inside the "rupture" you are able to see the stretched structure.
It could be a cheap copy and also a lemon (Montagsprodukt), because there are sometimes quality issues and inaccuracies at the factory.

It could really be a "Montagsprodukt" and thanks for the clear statement about bad quality. I still need to wait what the shop will say or do. They wanted to send me a new blonde wig and some glue but didn't get a tracking number so guess they didn't do anything so far ... If it's a real YL-Doll then they might have contacted YL-Doll now and are themselves waiting for an answer.

BTW if i would have found TDF before ordering i would most likely have bought from DollStudio.

[DocMoriarty]

I was just checking dolls in the SOLD Items forum - for example this 5 month old doll: http://www.dollforum.com/forum/viewtopi ... 22&t=77517

She shows damage in similar places as my doll but after 5 months of use and not 3 days and a lot less damage (for example in the fold between thighs and torso).
There are more examples like this.

I say this is a clear case of warranty.

[Cubiko]

And the doll in the photos is a WM160cm, not an YL148, so that is not right either. The damage you have on your doll is not normal for a genuine WM or YL, so either its a production error or the doll is not genuine. The vendor you bought from seem legit, but who knows these days. Selling dolls that look like WM to naive vendors is big business these days.

[Booty Call Dolls]

Glue will do nothing for her inner thighs.
Glue will not do very well for high stress areas as well.
Tell them mail fraud is a felony and you are going to file a claim.
I sure hope you used paypal.
BCD

[DocMoriarty]

And the doll in the photos is a WM160cm, not an YL148, so that is not right either. The damage you have on your doll is not normal for a genuine WM or YL, so either its a production error or the doll is not genuine. The vendor you bought from seem legit, but who knows these days. Selling dolls that look like WM to naive vendors is big business these days.

I know the doll on the photo is a WM 160cm, that was written on the webpage. Unlike a lot of other shops they show the attributes of the dolls on the photos since a lot of their preconfigured dolls are available in multiple body variants.

Glue will do nothing for her inner thighs.
Glue will not do very well for high stress areas as well.
Tell them mail fraud is a felony and you are going to file a claim.
I sure hope you used paypal.
BCD

Sadly not paypal. From their behaviour i don't think that it was a scam but really a production error. At least i hope so. Will call them tomorrow (Monday) and tell them that i consider this a warranty case. I want a replacement since i can perhaps glue something but 3 days later i will have the same problem again. Not going to do that.
And if i don't get a replacement i will most likely file a claim or do other stuff that might get very very expensive for them.

She also shows other signs of 'stress' even in not so stressed areas, they were just hard to catch on photo. Here is her left shoulder / shoulder blade area which shows lots of small parallel wrinkles (right side is same). Used a flashlight to make them visible. She also shows this on her butt. Is this normal for good TPE / Jinshan Dolls?

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Don't forget she is standing idle on her feet since last Wednesday and only her 2 hands touch something for safety.

[Obin]

If you know which model she is, e.g. WM 160, you can contact the respective doll manufacturer to verify whether the seller is an authorized seller. If the vendor you dealt with is an authorized seller, you can report the situation back to the manufacturer. I don't know that that would fix things but suspect such an action would get things moving.

Some manufacturers list authorized vendors on their websites. It can't hurt to check for that first.