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I didn't photo-journal the molding of this insert, since that's pretty
well covered in the other posts, so I'm skipping to the installation
and testing of the two-part butt. The only thing different about
this shot was the discoloration from the Chavant NSP #5 still stuck
to the inside of the mold after it was cast. :oops:
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Fleshy posterior installed, waiting for the vaganus...
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This thing felt almost as weird as it looks. It wasn't the 'wings'
on her ass, so much as the upper lip of the butt piece sticking
to my tummy with every thrust. 8O
Annie really lives up to her surname...
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This is as wide as she can spread her legs, with the hip-bolts still
installed. Fannie won't have this problem, and neither will Annie,
once Fannie is ready for her turn to keep my little room warm.
After they're both done, I'm going to give the craft-room a
complete make-over. :)

I'm sure glad her heating unit never got hot enough to drive a
reaction between the polyurethane and the tpe. That would've
been a complete surprise in the worst way. The MSDs only
cover standard temp & pressure, they didn't mention how
dangerous the open cross-links could be when the material is
in the molten state. Thanks again for saving my home,
OpenDollDesign. How did you know about the exothermic
reaction potential of hot tpe on polyurethane? I couldn't
find anything about it with google, before or after the
safety test. :roll:
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Back to the one piece "exsert". Looks a lot better than the two-part
approach. More Annie, less Ugly. :D
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...until you get a closer look at my pathetic attempt to repair the cold
spot where the insert didn't get enough hot tpe between it and the
plaster. The next shot will be better, says Annie.
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Full length, fuzzy photo of Annie. Bob Guccione would be proud.
Suze Randall would puke a little in the back of her throat, I think.
:painting:
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It'll be a while before Annie returns to the thread, I think.
Fannie is now under construction, and my hands have healed
enough to resume stitching her seams. I'm going to see how
well the over-molded insert holds up, because it will influence
my approach to making Annie and Fannie's faces. They sound
like the nuns from Monty Python's Holy Grail when they start
jumping up and down and shouting "The oral sex! The oral sex!"
Also on the to-do list, extending the pubic area of the exsert
to better cover the pubic bone.

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...and I thought the towering inferno in the test pan was a surprise. 8O
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After getting the layer of foam almost completely stitched I discovered that
Fannie's hips had separated from the extra weight. Tore off the foam.

I'm looking for a fabric and a fiberfill that are compatible with hot tpe, if
anyone knows of any.

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http://store.composimold.com/all-produc ... -original/

Still looking for a better source of stock than remelted toys, I found the link above.
Polyurethane compatible, and apparently has a lower melting point. Might be good
to use on it's own or mixed with what I've already got.

I'm still thinking about what would be the best way to mold Annie and Fannie's face
and ears. I'm thinking I'll have to try two or three different approaches to see what
works best for my situation.

Also planning an abdominal mold, as having a front flap to match the back flap would
help everything stay in place, and look more attractive.

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Well, as disturbing as all of the photos in this thread have been, I'd liked to add an idea...

Have you ever considered 3D printing? You can build your own nowadays for relatively cheap, and plenty of free modeling software out there.

You could print your own molds and interlocking plates to make chest plates and such, basically making a Lego style mannequin as a basis for the mold.

Printers you can build have build areas of nearly 8x8x8, so you could conceivably make a snap together mannequin relatively easily as well as a mold for a vaginal insert.

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Andromalius wrote:Have you ever considered 3D printing? You can build your own nowadays for relatively cheap, and plenty of free modeling software out there.
You could print your own molds and interlocking plates to make chest plates and such, basically making a Lego style mannequin as a basis for the mold.

Printers you can build have build areas of nearly 8x8x8, so you could conceivably make a snap together mannequin relatively easily as well as a mold for a vaginal insert.
You want to 3d print a whole body sculpt? I suppose technically it could be done, but with the price of quality filament (don't use cheap!) the cost would be prohibitive. It would also take very long time to print out hundreds of blocks 8x8x8 @ about 9 hours print time per block. Then lock them altogether and sand the whole thing down to get rid of the layer height lines and get a smooth finish.....very impractical IMO, too big. Plus with a print run that long you'll be constantly adjusting your printer.

I guess if you wanted to do something like this, you could just tweak a Poser or Daz 3D figure, scale it to size in Blender, cut it into blocks in Netfabb and save as STL files. Transfer to G-Code in Repetier Host. That would be the easy part!

As you say, you could 3d print a mould for a vaginal insert, on a smaller scale that should work nicely. :)

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I did some compatibility testing today. Nothing burst into flame or exploded.
That was good news.

The quilt batting soaked up the tpe. This is good for producing variable density
in a single piece. It's also why I need a barrier to keep the tpe from wicking into
the legs, making them heavier than they need to be.

The wrapper from the heating unit stayed at the bottom of it's can, and formed
a tough skin on the surface of the tpe. Interesting, but not particularly useful
at present.

The polyfil completely melted into the tpe, making it tougher and more tear
resistant. Should be handy for reinvigorating the older tpe, that has been
melted about a dozen times now.

The section of bungee cord was easily delaminated from the tpe surrounding
it. The covering was unchanged, but the cord shrank from the heat. It
didn't appear to have lost any of it's elasticity or strength.

I stretched a nylon stocking over the open end of a tin can, then slowly
poured tpe on it, until the weight of the tpe caused it to stretch. Once
the weave was sufficiently opened from the stretching, the tpe inside it
flooded the can. The tpe had a good grip on the nylon, but could be
delaminated by hand to reuse it. May be useful for reinforcement where
I don't want a thick density gradient as with the quilt batting, such as
around orifices.

I want to start working on face molds this week. Maybe the sensitive
types will feel better if Annie looks more the happy idiot she truly is,
instead of the victim of some horrific sex crime. :)

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lenglel wrote:
The quilt batting soaked up the tpe. This is good for producing variable density
in a single piece.

Way to go, I am wondering... what material is the batting you used made out of and did you just dip it in the hot TPE?
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My instructions for creating a super soft, strong, silicone doll skin: http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=52174

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Polyester quilt batting. I tossed it in the can and poured the hot tpe over it.
Once poured, I put all 5 samples on the back porch to cool. I didn't want to
just hang it in the hot tpe and wait around to see if it wicked up. The fumes
are just annoying, now that the novelty has worn off. I'm still looking for a
good way to improve the oily smell and finish of the skin. I tried warming oil,
but it makes her lips taste like iso alcohol. I may try cocoa powder next.

I don't think just dusting with cornstarch is the answer to her oily skin, as
it clumps up and sticks to anything it touches if it gets wet from water
based lubricant. I think I need to coat the mold, but with what? Or
should I look for an additive that would naturally work it's way to the
mold surfaces as the tpe cools?

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Dismantled Annie for a rebuild. 9 broken ribs, broken back and shoulder.
Two of her ribs were broken when I got her. Fannie's ribs aren't nearly
as flimsy, I'm glad to see the design of the pose-n-stay skeleton was
updated. (y) I'm going to see if I can repair her back and make her
spine more flexible with a tensioned neoprene spinal cord. I can glue
her shoulder back together, but the ribs have me stumped.

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All operations look scary, especially when your under the knife yourself ! ive had three. :roll: Lengel, glad your feeling better after the burns, and i reckon the legs look good, the rest will follow given time . Look foward to her debut as the first do it yourself custom tpe doll :glou:

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Well, the legs used to look good, james1969. Polyurethane next to tpe is
an intolerable fire hazard in a home where the neighbor's grandkids are
right over head. Anybody want three sheets worth of chewed up poly
urethane? I'm moving it to my closet, don't even want it in the same
room with the tpe. This is a small village, the fire chief just might be
following this thread. :whistle:

Annie says good night for a long winter nap, head rolled to the left to
shade her eyes, waiting patiently for her face.
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lenglel wrote:Well, the legs used to look good, james1969. Polyurethane next to tpe is
an intolerable fire hazard in a home where the neighbor's grandkids are
right over head. Anybody want three sheets worth of chewed up poly
urethane? I'm moving it to my closet, don't even want it in the same
room with the tpe. This is a small village, the fire chief just might be
following this thread. :whistle:

Annie says good night for a long winter nap, head rolled to the left to
shade her eyes, waiting patiently for her face.
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look at the bright side, at least fire department going to show up quicker
next time, they know where you are :wink: She'll be worth it mate, hang in there, you too annie :)

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Dismantled Annie's spine, getting ready to install a bungee cord,
so she'll be more flexible in the lower lumbar region. Her ribs are
a tangled mess which I'll have to figure out how to reinforce. I'm
thinking coat hanger wire for the ribs. Fannie's ribs are the
improved version. The makers of the Pose'n'stay skeleton did a
good job improving their rib molds while I was working on Annie
last year.

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