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First of all, things change. People were going BONKERS over doing oiling.
People decided more is better....
NOT TRUE
Drink to much water, it can kill you.
Too much oil, swelling.
Below states to be carefull with oil to not remove make up.
This guide was ran passed Indigo20.
You also need to apply some common sense.
Rubbing hard on the areolas,eyebrows =no common sense lol
You can gently wash, correct?
The soft soap mixture is in the thread.
You can even go read all 28 pages if you want, but below is most likely the best guide for Jinsan dolls.
Indigo20 suggests washing until the smell is gone to get rid of the residue.
After that, how often you clean her would depend upon use.
So what can happen if you oil and do not wash a doll?
My doll's skin turned black because the production powder was absorbed into the doll with the mineral oil. Here is a post Indigo made regarding my doll back in Dec 2016: http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=267&t=79046
And mineral is a good cleaner, but you MUST do the day 1 clean if you intend to do Vaseline and oil.
In fact, all you see is suggested monthly oiling, right?
If you used soap all the time that would not be good.
Make sense?
So please re-read below....

The Newly Wed Guide by Booty Call Dolls

The protocol for taking TPE dolls has changed alot in the past year. Unless you read about by chance or surf certain vendors you might not know. Credits go to my friend, Indigo20. This guide basically deals with TPE care.
Please note this protocol is for Jinsan dolls at this point in time. Different dolls like doll 4 ever have different TPE blends and the care would vary. Additionally, too much of a good thing is not a good thing. Just like drinking too much water can kill you, you can over oil your doll and cause her harm. You do not want that, right?
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DOLL CARE
Your TPE doll requires maintenance in order to lengthen her life span and ensure maximum durability while being used for her intended purposes. Now this is not burdensome in fact it can be quite enjoyable and become second nature once you have been acquainted with your doll as time goes on.

Your care kit should include the following:

Spray bottle
Microfibre towel
Cornstarch baby powder
Thick makeup brush
Soft sponge
Baby oil (babyoil having to be based on mineraloil/paraffinum,)
Nivea creme
Vaseline (petroleum jelly)

Her first two days

The first day of your TPE doll is the most important day.
Wash the doll 5-6 times for removing the production residues.
That stuff is unhealthy and you should remove it.
Afterwards do a mineral oil treatment, let it absorb and then do the powdering.
Let the doll rest for the night.
The first mineral oil treatment and powdering are working over night (binding left residues).
Next day, wash off the powder, do the mineral oil treatment again, let it absorb and then again the powdering.

Now, let’s talk about washing your doll.

Washing Your Doll

It is completely unnecessary to ever take your doll to the bathroom to wash. I highly discourage this method of washing your doll. To clean your doll simply all you need is the spray bottle, baby powder and makeup brush. Place your doll horizontally on a flat surface such as a bed or soft foam pad. Using the spray bottle make a soft soap mixture and mix.
Formula can be found here
Use an empty bottle and make a mixture of normal hand soap / shower gel and normal water in a ratio of 1:5.
That is your "doll soft soap mixture".

We are going to wash the front half of her body now. Spray her front half and wipe using a soft sponge , do this until her torso, arms legs have been cleaned. Dry her with the microfiber towel and then powder her to remove the tacky feeling to get the smooth skin feeling. I recommend to dispense the baby powder cornstarch into a small container so it is easy access and use the makeup brush to apply all over the parts you just cleaned her at. When you are done, flip her over and repeat the process to her back.

After washing off the doll with water and soap there can still be stains and more persistent dirt left on the TPE, which isn't always very noticeable to the eye depending on light and the skin color of the doll. You can get rid of most of this by stroking baby oil repeatedly in same direction along one body part at a time, and you'll quickly see how dirt is collected by the end of the strokes. Simply pick that dirt up with a fiber towel and repeat until it looks clean enough. After cleaning the whole doll like this, you can continue to rub it all in again with baby oil and let it soak


If you are going to oil your doll, you better wash her.
My doll's skin turned black because the production powder was absorbed into the doll with the mineral oil. Here is a post Indigo made regarding my doll back in Dec 2016: http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=267&t=79046 PLEASE don't make the same mistake I made; my doll is okay now, but it took a few months to purge the production residue from the TPE.


Let’s talk about Vaseline and Nivea crème,

Vaseline and Nivea crème

Please note that TPE used to make dolls in a different factory is of course not the same. This be true, what works on a WM doll most likely will not work on a Doll4 ever doll for example. Doll House 168 and Doll Forever TPE is different to Jinsan Their absorb baby oil very fast. Vaseline and Nivea creme are taking more than 2 days for absorption. So if you own one , apply it only thin.

As the crotch is a high stress area, it is ideal if once a week you apply Nivea creme to the vagina and crotch as this contains mineral oil and quickly will be absorbed by the TPE. Mineral oil is what makes the TPE soft and elastic if it were to dry out then a rip or tear can appear so it is important to provide extra care to the vagina and crotch. Leave the Nivea creme for approximately 6 hours for it to be absorbed onto the skin. For better protection you can apply Nivea every time you use the orifices.
For a quick review,
Vaseline and Nivea creme:

- For all joints: Armpits, elbows (inside / outside), knees (inside / outside), around the ankle.
- Private area and the skin folds of the thighs.

Baby oil with mineral oil (paraffinum liquidum) is overall good for the whole doll.

Please note that Vaseline, Nivea cream and baby oil will remove the original make-up from the face, breast and vagina of the doll, as well as self-applied make-up.
So you might want to avoid those areas or be very careful and not rub it in.

TPE Rehydration

Once a month it is recommended to hydrate the entire doll with mineral oil to keep the doll factory new. Similar to washing your doll you apply baby oil on the front half of the body and wait approx 2 hours for absorption and flip the doll over and repeat. Be sure to remove baby powder first before oiling her body. Vaseline can be used under high stress areas such as the arm pits, crotch and vagina but requires approx. 12 hours for absorption. Vaseline and Nivea creme has a higher mineral oil content than baby oil. For hydrating the entire body, baby oil is the proper choice.

You can remove sticky and dark spots from dust / dirt (not dark stains from pigments caused from unwashed clothing) by using baby oil and Q-tips or a small towel. Simply apply the baby oil and wipe gently above the spot for removing it.

Note-Many people stain their dolls. A very good method to avoid this is to wash clothing in sink. You change the water and repeat until the water is clear.
After the clothing is dry, you can wrap it around an insert/tpe material. You then place a book or something similar on it to produce weight.

Of course, the vagina, anus and mouth if used will require some added care

The love holes

Using Lube

You may find this surprising but it is now unnecessary to use water based lubrication for sexual intercourse with your doll. It is safe to use Vaseline or baby oil for lube alternative. If you want to use regular lubricant, make absolutely sure it is water-based and not silicone-based.
Insert vagina
If she uses an insert, please check the thread below,
http://www.dollforum.com/forum/viewtopi ... 67&t=87073

Fixed Vaginas

If your doll has a built in vagina then it is trickier to clean but you will need an aquarium pump to air the cavity out completely.
We will discuss pointers to dry and disinfect.

To dry, we suggest using tampons, one for the mouth and 2 for the vagina (behind each other) and 2 for the anus opening (behind each other).
Tampons are much easier to insert, soaking off the moisture, do not produce fluffs and can be easily removed with the strip.
Also after sex, insert 2 tampons in her vagina / anus.
The tampons are soaking off most of the sperm-lube mixture.
That allows you to move the doll without the fear that something drops out.
Or you are using that method for having a relaxed time after sex and the tampons are doing the most work for you itself.
Remove the tampons after 30 minutes.
Afterwards the cleaning is very easy.

To disinfect, you can spray some hydrogen peroxide 3% on 2 tampons.
Insert it in the dried vagina / anus and let it there for 30 minutes.
Remove it. Do this once per week.
Hydrogen peroxide 3% is a sperm killer.
Never use alcohol, it causes micro-cuts inside the TPE structure and in addition it makes all TPE blends dry, brittle and cracked. Do not use toy cleaners, disinfection sprays, disinfection soap, etc.
Hydrogen peroxide 3% is the most effective disinfection method.

If you follow the simple steps in maintenance of your doll then you will find a long lasting product.


Black list of harming products (in conjunction with the TPE blends especially used for TPE love dolls):

- Alcohol:

Pure alcohol like rubbing alcohol, alcohol thinned with water and products containing a lot of alcohol like baby wipes, desinfection wipes, sprays and soaps, toy cleaners, etc.
Alcohol is producing micro-cuts (irreparable) and a dry out effect (porous, cracked and brittle ) inside the TPE structure.

Spray perfume only on clothing and / or wig before you put on your doll.
Do not spray perfume directly on the doll's TPE surface.


- Solvents:

All kind of single solvents and solvent compounds like mineral spirits, odorless mineral spirits, paint thinner, nitro-thinner, and products containing solvents like alcohol-free baby wipes (includes ether and/or chlorine instead of alcohol) etc.
Solvents are causing a dissolving process inside the TPE structure, are destroying the block-copolymers and therewith they are extremely harmful for TPE.

Only official repair solvents for TPE dolls and their different TPE blends, provided from the vendors, are allowed according their repair manuals / videos and recommendations from the vendors and manufacturers.


- Vegetable oil:

Products containing vegetable oil, like crèmes, soaps, shower gels with coconut oil, fruity oils, etc.
Vegetable oils are sealing the TPE surface and therewith the necessary breathing function of TPE is stopped.


- Silicone oil:

Products like wet condoms (includes dimeticone) and silicone-based lube.
Silicone oil influences the TPE structure and makes it harder, cracked and brittle.
Also a shrinking process of the TPE can happen.

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Jeff, i think you missed the entire point of the 2nd convo.

OP says "i washed my doll 6 times with soapy water" then ITV says, soap and water will cause mold... then samara agrees with ITV and says soapy water is bad.

OUR PROBLEM is that your guide says to use soapy water, and 2 people are saying not to..

you understand?

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OK hobo.. ive talked to Jeff and samara (that was fun), and i figured out what is going on.

for some reason, they are both refering to continued matience of a doll past its "setup" cleaning.

aka, they didnt realize this was a new doll. 1) you havent announced it yet, 2) they didnt fucking read your OP

My advise, and what i will be doing next week:
Follow Jeffs guide word for word, you are doing the correct steps.
Jeff and samara are correct, soap and water to clean the doll AFTER initial setup so not good for your doll.

As wonderful as BCD is for this community, sometimes they just can't communicate worth shit. lolol =)

hope this helps... AND make your announcement thread for crying out loud. no one knows you have a new doll.

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Procrasturbate wrote:
samara78 wrote:
itvman wrote:Just wipe it with mineral oil or petroleum jelly. You don't need to use soap and water, the oil will clean it better without risking mold.
Agreed. Using soap will make her skin vulnerable over time.
Bro... YOUR guide says you need to use soap and water mixture 6 times... whats with the conflicting info????
I'm not Jeff. The very first cleanings are with soap and water. The tpe, however can become porous and take on water if always washed this way. After the dolls factory oils/seapage, odor are washed off with soap and water ONLY AFTER INITIAL PURCHASE then you can wash with baby oil and wipe down with soft damp baby wipe. Always use petroleum inside the oral cavity. I like a cotton pad with baby oil to carefully go around the makeup a q-tip/cotton swab has the same effect.

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Wouldn't it make more sense for the manufacturers to wash the dolls to clean off their shit before sending them? One expects that when one buys a personal product then it's going to be safe. Indigo's post implies that an unwashed new doll is potentially harmful. The WM site implies their dolls are safe. Why aren't they cleaning them first and leaving it to the buyer, who in all likelihood may not even have heard of this forum let alone the guide.

There is a video by one of the manufacturers showing them making their dolls and they are showered before being packed. WM please take note, it would be a good idea for you to follow suit and protect your customers.

I agree that washing a doll when new is a good idea, although I just wiped her down with a sponge rather than wash her with soap and water six times and I can honestly say that in the intervening 12 months she has not turned black or poisoned me. But if I'd known at the time I would have washed her more thoroughly.

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maybe its like fruit from the store? it's "safe" because the farmer washed it once, but when you get it home you want to wash it again to insure the chemicals are off it?

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When you first get a doll are you supposed to clean the head just like the body too? I am almost done cleaning the doll for the first night but i havent touched the head because it has make up i dont want to wipe off
Above is his first post so I feel my reply was 100% correct.
He asked about cleaning the head.
I let him know he should and what could happen if he does not.
He had not completed the initial cleaning of the head.
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Hi all,

I believe the contraversy was after my initial post, but I either way I just took your initial reply as stick to the guide and assumed as Procrasturbate pointed out the other were talking about non initial maintenance.

I tried with both non-soapy water, mineral oil, and soapy water and I can tell you fairly safely for the initial cleaning just to stick to he great honeymoon guide and use soapy water. Thanks for everyone's help and sorry for this turning into something more than it should of.

Since we are talking about the guide I must say it has been invaluable to me, but one point in the guide is a little confusing and contradicting at least from my point of view. In the guide the quick outline of steps says,

"Her first two days

The first day of your TPE doll is the most important day.
Wash the doll 5-6 times for removing the production residues.
That stuff is unhealthy and you should remove it.
Afterwards do a mineral oil treatment, let it absorb and then do the powdering."

But in the Washing your Doll section which breaks it out into more detail it makes it sound like you put on baby powder before applying mineral oil.

"We are going to wash the front half of her body now. Spray her front half and wipe using a soft sponge , do this until her torso, arms legs have been cleaned. Dry her with the microfiber towel and then powder her to remove the tacky feeling to get the smooth skin feeling. I recommend to dispense the baby powder cornstarch into a small container so it is easy access and use the makeup brush to apply all over the parts you just cleaned her at. When you are done, flip her over and repeat the process to her back.

After washing off the doll with water and soap there can still be stains and more persistent dirt left on the TPE, which isn't always very noticeable to the eye depending on light and the skin color of the doll. You can get rid of most of this by stroking baby oil repeatedly in same direction along one body part at a time, and you'll quickly see how dirt is collected by the end of the strokes. Simply pick that dirt up with a fiber towel and repeat until it looks clean enough. After cleaning the whole doll like this, you can continue to rub it all in again with baby oil and let it soak"


Pending any further responses I would like to close this thread as to avoid confusion since the concerns happen to be null and void. However this thread did reveal that continued maintenance should not use soapy water or else it degradates the TPE over time which I believe is something important I wouldnt have known if it wasnt brought up.

and yes I will be making my new doll thread over in general discussion in a few hours if anyone is interested :3
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itvman wrote:I agree that washing a doll when new is a good idea, although I just wiped her down with a sponge rather than wash her with soap and water six times and I can honestly say that in the intervening 12 months she has not turned black or poisoned me. But if I'd known at the time I would have washed her more thoroughly.
I've had Brie close to 11 months now and only washed her twice.

First night, I gave her a good handwash with a microfiber towel and soapy water, two coats back to back without drying off between. (This includes forehead, cheeks, and back of head, but not eyes or mouth where makeup had been applied.) Then applied cornstarch baby powder. Her new doll smell went away within a week.

February gave her a new sponge bath, mostly water only, rubbing a little bit of soap onto my hands for application to a few areas I thought were dirtier than others (like bottoms of feet). Another application of baby powder.

A few weeks ago, added Vaseline in sensitive areas (mons pubis, underarms) for the first time. Otherwise, I've used Purell wet wipes to clean hands, feet, elbows, knees, and face where needed, and reapplied baby powder in areas cleaned or where she felt tacky on as-needed basis. Before photoshoots, I might use some q-tips dipped in baby oil to clean up her face or makeup mistakes, as well, but I don't consider any of these actions to be 'washing'. And I have never given Brie a full mineral oil/baby oil rubdown.


The biggest problem I seem to have are knicks and cuts that need repair with a heated spoon. Nothing washing or oiling could help with.


Now, you can look at my photoshoots and tell me if you see any signs of undo wear on Brie thanks to my lack of regular, prescribed cleaning maintenances some of these folks are telling you is needed. I am completely in the camp that believes all this extra washing, oil, and vaseline applications are entirely unwarranted. If you think washing needs to happen more than every few months I've done, that's fine - it might make the difference between a doll lasting 4 or 5 years vs 10 years. But washing once a week is complete baloney. At best, you're just wasting your time. At worst, you'll wear out your doll faster by increasing her water/oil absorption rate, porosity, and aridity from such frequent wash/dry cycles. You should instead clean your doll only when needed, only in the areas where needed, and powder as needed to keep her smooth, and very infrequently add Vaseline to sensitive areas to cut down on creasing or restore elasticity. There shouldn't be anything more you need to do.

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Very informative thread. Thanks for the substantive replies, people.

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