www.wmdolls.com

Goose neck ....does WM dolls use this?

WM dolls was establish on 2012, we have own production base (located center of Greater Bay Area, Guangdong, China), which is one of the most professional and the biggest factory of realistic sex dolls in the world.
As pioneered TPE used and many famous brands' dolls manufacturer, We have been focusing on customer experience, and continue to work hard to develop new functions for dolls.
We have many patents and independently developed exclusive functions, Such as Breathing feature, Ball Joints Hand Skeleton, Real Oral Sex(ROS) Head, etc.
Website: www.wmdolls.com
User avatar
DarkOne
Doll Elder
Doll Elder
Posts: 2550
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:20 pm
Contact:

Re: Goose neck ....does WM dolls use this?

Post by DarkOne »

timetraveler1 wrote:THIS is apparently a bad problem area , i don't know if all doll companies use this same neck joint which seems to break , i am hoping doll companies will chime in here especially if they are using different neck connections . and also that companies and even venders see this is a bad design in the neck and hopefully companies will create a better neck and joint connection . doll companies have listened to many things for the customers and this should be no different .
if the neck joint breaks to easy or is a weak point of the doll , people will be afraid to order dolls because , the neck joint won't last. dolls are an investment .

it's in doll companies own best interest to fix this problem , before sales start dwindling off.

from what i see of bad welds etc.(IF THE JOINT IS THE SAME IN YOUR DOLL ) i would advise against hanging the body by a hook in fear of the neck part breaking and pulling off and dropping the body itself on the floor .

if the doll had a strong neck joint and bolted good to main frame , the hook into the base of neck i would think be a great way to hang the doll . but it all depends on the neck joint and knowing what type it actually is and how connected.
Nope. TPE doll companies just don't give a shit. they have repeatably shown they don't give a shit and have not fixed any issues from 2015 or 2014. The ONLY improvement iv seen in TPE dolls in the past 2 years is they added a spine joint, something not NEARLY as important as a proper neck joint or wrist joint. Oh and the 'standing foot' option where they put big screws in the bottom of the foot and actually put in an ankle joint that might survive the forces.

WM's vagina cavity balls are still falling out, leading to water ingression/rust/biological hazard, necks are still snapping like twigs along with the wrists from just a few dozen bend cycles. anal is still tearing badly with minimal use resulting in an un-repairable tear, just because the anal cavity is wayy too close to the back of the ass leading to a very thin section of TPE at the rear of the asshole.

At this point I think they believe selling fatally flawed dolls increases sales since your doll won't last more then a year or two before something horrible happens to it, if it even lasts that long. Else they would have fixed these issues by now.
justintime wrote:Still no comments from Doll Manufactures here..
This is either a problem and they hope this thread gets dropped,
or something they just do not care about.
yep they just don't care about necks snapping. Im sure they would rather produce dolls with fatal flaws so they can sell you another in 2 years. Jokes on them Im never buying another WM doll till they fix this shit, and maybe not even if they DO fix this shit. I'll be buying from a 'sweet' little 'doll' company who uses silicone+good skeletons or some other company who actually produces a skeleton not DESIGNED TO FAIL WITH DAILY USE. Especially since the 145 silicone doll they sell is now cheaper then WM145 and built WAYY WAYY BETTER.

I tell everyone who will listen not to buy WM dolls (or any TPE doll for that matter) because of piss poor neck and wrist design. Considering I make about 4.5 posts a day, 1600 posts a year, that is a lot of people.

Not *ONE* TPE company has bothered to produce a doll with a hinged neck. NOT ONE! Or a hinged wrist. A pox upon them all and may their heads fall off unexpected much like they flawed dolls they produce.
Every day people remind me why I like dolls better.

User avatar
timetraveler1
Doll Visionary
Doll Visionary
Posts: 12304
Joined: Tue Apr 13, 2004 12:00 am
Location: u.s.a.
Contact:

Re: Goose neck ....does WM dolls use this?

Post by timetraveler1 »

As i said i personally don't know what skeletons different companies use but to me it looks like a tight joint like the ones they use in the elbows or knees would have been better jointed with pre set motion limitation at the base of the neck and a bar with a top screw in area for the head to attach . to me this seems like a better neck fix , maybe others might have a better idea .

User avatar
DarkOne
Doll Elder
Doll Elder
Posts: 2550
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:20 pm
Contact:

Re: Goose neck ....does WM dolls use this?

Post by DarkOne »

timetraveler1 wrote:As i said i personally don't know what skeletons different companies use but to me it looks like a tight joint like the ones they use in the elbows or knees would have been better jointed with pre set motion limitation at the base of the neck and a bar with a top screw in area for the head to attach . to me this seems like a better neck fix , maybe others might have a better idea .
ANY other joint design would be better then the gooseneck. Literately any type of hinged joint would be MILES ahead, even one poorly made outta stamped sheet metal.

Just copy any other hinged joint in the doll and shove it into the neck area. the necks on the larger dolls are VERY thick, they will gladly accept a bulky joint. It doesnt really matter exactly where the neck bends or how, just so long as it does not fall off just from posing the neck a few dozen times like gooseneck does.

NO hinged joint in the WM doll fails as often as the gooseneck (or wrists). Hinged joints are a thousand times better and its long overdue that WM stops producing fatally flawed necks for their dolls.

Can you imagine if a car company produces a car with a door that fell off after opening and closing it 50 times? Where it happened to EVERY SINGLE CUSTOMER who dared go in and out of their car 50 times? they would be FORCED to do a recall. Letting everyone suffer with no refund and *maybe* sending them repair parts would get them sued out of existence so fast the newspapers wouldn't have time to print the lawsuit notice before the car company went bankrupt. telling customers "oh just don't use the door, uhhh go in and out via the sunroof! or trunk!" would get them laughed out of court. Why the hell do doll companies get to get away with this shit?
Every day people remind me why I like dolls better.

harvey48
Doll Advisor
Doll Advisor
Posts: 770
Joined: Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:38 pm
Contact:

Re: Goose neck ....does WM dolls use this?

Post by harvey48 »

If this is the case, then how does this differ then buying a knock off?

Both mfg are and knock offs are prone to failure

Bad skeleton maybe inferior TPE sounds like both knock offs and scams buyers get screwed and not in a good way.

User avatar
Daydream21
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 212
Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:51 pm
Location: West Coast USA
Contact:

Re: Goose neck ....does WM dolls use this?

Post by Daydream21 »

DarkOne wrote: Why the hell do doll companies get to get away with this shit?
They get away with it because there's no shortage of posts saying how "hot" the dolls are, how great their tits and asses are, how alive they seem, etc.

By opening debate, threads like this one are where the worth of dolls is really put to a test. It would be great to see WM or its supporters respond to what's been brought up here.

User avatar
dollylamma
Doll Elder
Doll Elder
Posts: 2221
Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:00 am
Contact:

Re: Goose neck ....does WM dolls use this?

Post by dollylamma »

This is one reason I have yet to buy tpe.
But damn those tits are mesmerizing!!

I have only seen 4 companies make skeleton changes. DS , Z-one,Sanhui, ( all silicone) sili doll has strengthened it's design. But still uses wire .
DL

User avatar
CrazyCajun
~ Member ~
~ Member ~
Posts: 844
Joined: Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:49 pm
Location: North of Atlanta GA
Contact:

Re: Goose neck ....does WM dolls use this?

Post by CrazyCajun »

Until we use the power that we have in "What We Demand and What We Purchase" then we will continue to get the same inferior products. We drive the changes with what we are willing to purchase.
CrazyCajun and the Girls

Making the world a doll friendlier place!
April's Gallery's: http://www.dollalbum.com/dollgallery/in ... ?cat=14640

User avatar
haremlover
Doll Visionary
Doll Visionary
Posts: 16238
Joined: Tue May 26, 2009 12:00 am
Location: UK and South of France
Contact:

Re: Goose neck ....does WM dolls use this?

Post by haremlover »

I plead guilty to saying how great
Image
aspects of the WM155 anatomy really are.

I've complained heavily about aspects of WM construction specifically the wrists and ankles - and their response with their standing solution with hinged ankles is astoundingly superb and I understand they have now brought out proper hinged wrists.

The necks of my two WM dolls do creak and possibly I'm careful not to bend them excessively but as a result I haven't experienced trouble with a breakage.

Being married my toy ladies only come out to play when my wife is away and having more than one they don't have to work very hard for a living . . . other than Chloé . . . so although I can sympathise with people who have had problems with this structure, as without doubt hinges would be better, in practice with the care with which I treat my ladies it hasn't been a problem to me.

I praise significantly things that are good and am encouraging of WM's innovative sculptures. Their 155 is wonderful. Their 165 large version is adventurous and I'm very taken by their African lady who's sculpted to the highest quality and is the first really good African figure I've seen. :plaidskirt: (Indeed drooling)

With luck they are listening to threads like this and will respond in the quality of their skeleton so that people looking for permanent companion ladies rather than indisputable toys that the 155 and 165 clearly are, will not be disappointed in the longer term.

Best wishes

Harem
Latest reviews coming for Irontech and FJ doll silicone ladies.

Chloé's book
Image
is available from The-Doll-House
- - - -
Here's Coverdoll Yolanda
- - - -
Reviews for:
-DS-OR-JY-SY-Jarliet-Vivid-SM-SE-ZOne-JM-Sino-Sanhui-Pipedream--XY-WM-Elsa Babe-SM Silicone Siliko-XYcolo-Starpery-Elsa Babe-FutureDoll-Zelex-Irontech-FJ Doll
- - - -
YouTube Doll Review Channel
-https://www.youtube.com/@sexdoll-reviews-

User avatar
CrazyCajun
~ Member ~
~ Member ~
Posts: 844
Joined: Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:49 pm
Location: North of Atlanta GA
Contact:

Re: Goose neck ....does WM dolls use this?

Post by CrazyCajun »

I have probably complained as much as anyone here about specifically the neck issues with these dolls. I will say that from a manufacturing standpoint, I can understand the use of this corrugated pipe for the application of the neck. It provides a somewhat realistic range of motion with a minimal cost. The problem is they did not design this part to be easily replaced. Doing that would solve this issue in that this part would be very inexpensive to manufacture in a way that could be replaced by the owner in as little as 10 minutes. That would provide a workable solution that at least I could very happily live with.

I do not under stand the absolute reluctance to redesign a part that would take so little effort and add virtually zero cost and relieve so many problems. The existing dolls, well that a tougher nut to crack!
CrazyCajun and the Girls

Making the world a doll friendlier place!
April's Gallery's: http://www.dollalbum.com/dollgallery/in ... ?cat=14640

User avatar
4biddenartist
Doll Advisor
Doll Advisor
Posts: 837
Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:20 pm
Location: Weird town USA
Contact:

Re: Goose neck ....does WM dolls use this?

Post by 4biddenartist »

Well for me the neck is absolutely crucial as one of my favorite ways to utilize my doll is to sit on the couch and position her on her knees in front of me and get some great head whilst enjoying a nice scene from a porno. So my doll has seen a lot of very rugged back and forth and wobbling motions in her life thus far. I dont know for sure if the 1am teri model is a WM doll but I do believe she is. She does have the gooseneck though and it has held up thus far even with my demanding vigor. But I would never suspend her from the neck.
I think therefore,
I try not to.
-me

User avatar
justintime
Doll Patriarch
Doll Patriarch
Posts: 4383
Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:19 pm
Location: Exploring the Blue Planet from 100M down
Contact:

Re: Goose neck ....does WM dolls use this?

Post by justintime »

What everyone is saying is so true, as to making the neck repairable. It would be a better investment to just make it right and not make a doll that will break.
Come on this is not rocket science, it's just being lazy and not caring. This problem is with the manufacturer's using the goose neck. They should standup and say bad idea and look what we have done to bring you a quality doll. Things like this go a long way with respecting manufacturers.
We all know that beauty is only skin deep, this rings more true in a doll that in anything I know of.
I hear all the time, well it did not happen to my doll. That is not the point. The point is it has happened and continues to happen.
Stop worrying about how pretty a doll is and understand it's the skeleton that counts.

You can not build a future on a bad foundation. ( the future is a good customer base)
Even if it happens to one it's to many.
Come on this is too much money to spend and not receive a quality made doll.
“Put … the Doll … down … and slowly back away.”
Shelby My Piece Of Heaven
Shelby Model Information

User avatar
DarkOne
Doll Elder
Doll Elder
Posts: 2550
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:20 pm
Contact:

Re: Goose neck ....does WM dolls use this?

Post by DarkOne »

haremlover wrote:... I've complained heavily about aspects of WM construction specifically the wrists and ankles - and their response with their standing solution with hinged ankles is astoundingly superb and I understand they have now brought out proper hinged wrists.
...
Harem

Who has claimed to have gotten a WM with hinged wrists? I have heard nothing about this.
Every day people remind me why I like dolls better.

User avatar
justintime
Doll Patriarch
Doll Patriarch
Posts: 4383
Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:19 pm
Location: Exploring the Blue Planet from 100M down
Contact:

Re: Goose neck ....does WM dolls use this?

Post by justintime »

For me , as much as I enjoy all the extra fun I have with my dolls. Taking photos is the best part. I like posing them is shots.
But when a neck is broken due to careless quality control by manufactures. Then I loose faith in those companies.

When it takes ten times over and over to pose a head, then it becomes a problem.
Why would someone spend $2,000 for a problem?

Still absolute quite from doll makers who have given I mean sold us this problem.
It is a problem, so why do they persist in ignoring this issue?

Hello..... WM,YL and any company using goose necks.. we are talking to you, how about an answer.
“Put … the Doll … down … and slowly back away.”
Shelby My Piece Of Heaven
Shelby Model Information

User avatar
CrazyCajun
~ Member ~
~ Member ~
Posts: 844
Joined: Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:49 pm
Location: North of Atlanta GA
Contact:

Re: Goose neck ....does WM dolls use this?

Post by CrazyCajun »

Their silents is deafening, it says more than they ever could.
CrazyCajun and the Girls

Making the world a doll friendlier place!
April's Gallery's: http://www.dollalbum.com/dollgallery/in ... ?cat=14640

User avatar
Booty Call Dolls
VENDOR
VENDOR
Posts: 23672
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:49 pm
Contact:

Re: Goose neck ....does WM dolls use this?

Post by Booty Call Dolls »

Ok, guys you can go BASH me!
Go get a doll from Ebay, say, for example, ANNIE'S DOLLHOUSE and have it split in half where you care the most in two weeks!
I know what you are thinking...Jeff, did your WM or YL dolls gooseneck break? Nope, but I truly can feel for you because my SIN's neck gave out while hanging!
I do agree, it would be great if all these changes were made, but,if not, at least get from a Vendor that will go to bat for you.
I bet if George at X/s had sold CC his doll instead of who did, things most likely would have been alot different.
Your vendor did not even step up to the plate. George would have. Would he hit a home run? maybe? maybe not. But atleast he would have taken care of you and then go after you know who.

What the ^%$# do expect the TPE dolls makers Yl,WM , or OR to say?
You are BASHING them!
Instead of thanking them for making improvements over the last couple of years and making some nice looking to dolls you can %^&* and not fall apart in two weeks, you are cornering them. Insulting them.
What should have happened in these RARE cases, is you should have been compensated for properly.
This did not happen.
You can't saw saw dust anymore.
I can only imagine how many TPE dolls have been sold and ALL THIS for maybe,maybe, 1% defect rate.
GO CHECK THE AIRBAGS IN YOUR CARS!
You all have a choice to make and even if you make no decision, you still have made a decision.
This was my choice.
I have been working with Eric for a couple years now and I consider him to be a friend as well as the artist of the dolls I sell more, YLs.
I could no longer let you do that to him as well as Zihan, David, or Sam.
Out from here!
BCD aka Jeff
Attachments
asian.jpg
asian.jpg (59.79 KiB) Viewed 2076 times
http://dolldesire.com/
. One vendor name kept coming up as being great at helping customers walk through the process, Booty Call Dolls. So I decided I would work with them on this first purchase, and did.
-princeoverit
You could not of found a better person to help you with your first doll. Jeff /Booty call dolls, knows his stuff... One of the few members that is a vendor and a real lover of dolls. He owns quite a few dolls, and really understands the love we all share.
-Just in time

Post Reply

INFORMATIONS