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Question - Anime Doll / Dagmar vs Teddy Babes

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Does anyone have experience with both Anime Doll / Dagmar from Beatiful Dolls and Teddy Babes? I'm currently awaiting the arrival of a YL 148cm, but I don't want to risk messing it up by attempting to sleep/cuddle with it because I toss and turn in my sleep. I've been looking at plush/velour dolls for this purpose (my wife sleeps on the couch during her period / cramps because she uses a heating pad, and I have difficulty sleeping during these 5-8 days each month), and these two seem to be the most feasible options (velour vixens look too fake to me, and the other company I can't remember the name but had realistic ones, but they don't have any prices or information available on their website). The things I want most out of a cuddle doll is at least semi realistic feeling skin, a body that isn't too squishy when putting my arms around it in a spooning position, the ability to use the sex function with ease should I so desire, and durability. Could anyone compare and contrast these two and provide pros and cons?

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Anime Doll skin feels like a high denier lycra stocking, which is exactly what it is. Its smooth, warm, and quite sexy. TeddyBabe plush is a VERY soft velour, and whilst not exactly like human skin, it feels very nice against the skin.

AnimeDolls have a solid core to their head, with the 'skin' stretched over it, TeddyBabes have a stuffed head making it softer, but easier to cuddle with as they will squish slightly and form to you, rather then you needing to find that sweet spot where everything fits together perfectly.

TeddyBabe sex is (like most dolls) a little trial and error till you find what works for you. The hips do take a little time for the stuffing to compress and soften to allow better ranges of movement, but the skeleton is a simple wire affair so easy to fix IF it does break, but virtually bomb proof provided you arent constantly bending and rebending the exact same spot over and over. With Teddybabes having almost no 'Thigh Gap' it does mean you can simply put an insert between the top of their thights and angle it to your requirements for sex from behind, but the pocket they have is plenty big enough for a wide variety of inserts and sleves, though less bulky ones will give a better experience.

Anime dolls have more of a cavity allowing for larger inserts, but they also have a wider 'Thigh Gap'. I'm not 100% on the anime skeleton, but I think its a combination of plastic tubes and heavy wires making it more posable than a TB, but possibly less forgiving to getting bent in bed at night.

All that aside. Teddybabes can do this
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Thanks for the detailed response, Karrot! While I do slightly prefer the aesthetics of the Anime Doll, it sounds like the Teddy Babe is closer to what I'm looking for in functionality. I showed my wife both, and she couldn't quite grasp the purpose since I already have a tpe doll, and she finds the plush ones to be quite ugly (but she's also comparing them to realistic tpe/silicone dolls). I sort of felt that way the first time I saw them, but they are starting to grow on me!

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You'll never get realistic with a cloth doll, even textile dolls have their short falls on realism, though they are the closest. Thats largely due to the solid head used to give a real face.

Once you get a Teddybabe in your arms and feel her soft warmth against you realism becomes a very secondary concern. They arent for everyone, but if you can overlook their caricatured nature, they are wonderful bed buddies and I'll be surprised if the missus doesnt steal her away at some point for her own snuggle time.

The closed eye lid mod is very simple and really does add a new level of bed time tranquillity, as Teddybabes do seem to be happily asleep with their eyes closed.

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My wife prefers the Dagmar doll aesthetically, and I think she kind of wants that one. I'm torn! :/

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The other one you mentioned is Textile Dolls. The pricing is about the range of Dagmar doll's price at the moment. Maybe a bit more. Pricing is a bit case-by-case so can't give you any hard numbers I'm afraid.

Textile Dolls have a long waiting time though. At least 2.5 months. That's because one person makes them and they are always custom made and by hand.

Then again to me they're by far the best looking fabric dolls in the market.

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I have had both the Anime Deluxe from BD and a TBD...the Anime was a little more realistic to sleep/cuddle with because of the added weight and more human like feel. The TBD feels more like a stuffed animal, which was fine. The difference was nice because I could choose who I cuddled with based on how I felt...that is when the girlfriend was not here. In honesty, I think I slept with the Anime the majority of the time. I did replace the skeleton in the TBD to add more weight and maneuverability, but because of the construction differences the TBD still felt like a stuffed animal. Hope this helps...

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Thanks, that helps. I looked at the Textile Dolls, but they just look a bit too ... serious. I don't know what it is, but they just don't look like they "want"to cuddle. The 165cm Dagmar is only $750 at beautifuldoll right now (plus about $8 for pink lips). I worry about the durability of the skin compared to the TBD, and some of the descriptions seem to indicate it feels like panty hose stretched over memory foam, which doesn't really sound too appealing. The big thing to keep in mind is that I'm used to snuggling with a real woman, so it's going to be filling that void about a week monthly when she's sleeping on the couch, so semi realistic feel of holding her is primary focus for me. The usage as a sex doll is secondary and will probably rarely be used in that nature. I'm so undecisive when it comes to these things! :p

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I can't give you a head to head comparison (or body to body either *rimshot), but I can tell you that a Teddy Babe is unimaginably cuddly. As far as their "skin" I have a Deluxe (she's an Audrey) with the "new" extra soft plush. While it's certainly very soft, I'd maybe describe it more as smooth- at least if you go with the grain. Sorta like a puppy's ear or a horse's nose. Not really quite either one, but kinda like that if that makes any sense. I wouldn't call it realistic, but it's not super unrealistic either because of it's smoothness. Although for sleeping with her (no matter what doll you choose) I'd recommend getting her pajamas anyway. It helps keep her clean from sweat and skin oils, and if realism is your concern there's way less of a difference between a doll and a girl wearing pajamas than a doll and a girl naked. Personally, I can't help but recommend satin pajamas- they are so soft and make even the cuddliest of dolls even cuddlier. I think anyway. You could have a wooden doll and she'd be at least a little cuddly with satin pajamas. To be totally honest though, from a 100% tactile, "fun to touch" standpoint, I think I wish girls felt more like Teddy Babes than I wish my Teddy Babe felt just like a real girl, lol. I can't keep my hands off her sometimes... Maybe that's just me though, and I understand why realism is a priority for some people. As I got more and more attached to her, the less "real" mattered to me. Instead of a human substitute she just became my Teddy Babe, and any differences just made her all the more special and endearing, so maybe my perspective is all goofed up. Still, it's hard to imagine anyone touching a Teddy Babe and being disappointed with their special softness, realistic or not.

As far as being too squishy, I don't think that would be a problem. I know, having never seen one, it's hard for you to imagine exactly what they're like, and equally hard for me to describe, but they're pretty firm for a polyfill-stuffed creation. Especially when they're new. I think it's about perfect after she softens, but if anything you might think she's too firm when she's new rather than too squishy. For pure cuddling purposes I would recommend considering the smaller breast option (you can request any of the girls with that body so I've heard, so you don't have to restrict yourself to the 3 cataloged options). The reason I say this is that if you have your faces are level to each other and you want your arm across her torso, those huge boobs can be a bit of an obstacle. To be fair, I generally sleep facing her though, so maybe it's not as big of a deal with spooning. The only time we ever spoon is if I need to roll over, and then I'm the little spoon, lol. And from what I've seen, the "smaller breasts" are certainly not small. They should maybe call the smaller ones the regular and the regular ones large. Sorta like the drinks at a fast food place, haha.

I was surprised how good the sex was with her too, although right away when they're real new they can be pretty stiff, so it might take a little while before she wants to let you in there, lol. It doesn't take long though, don't worry. I was maybe being overly cautious as well. I was also surprised just what a hottie she was too. I mainly just wanted a doll to sleep with, but once she's got her curvy body pressed against you, with those big boobs and your hand can't help but find it's way to that sexy round ass ... she's waaaaaaay sexier in person that I expected. Did I mention her butt is amazing? The first night I slept with her (in the literal sense- she was a bit too stiff for the figurative meaning of the phrase- I was pretty stiff as well...) I fell asleep recollecting that old Viagra commercial where they say to call a doctor if it lasted for more than 4 hours and wondering if that only applied if you were taking those pills or if I should be worried. I'm not joking either, I was actually a little concerned- thankfully there seems to be no damage though, lol.

I've only had a Teddy Babe 5-6 months, but so far she has never had any durability issues. I did stain her just a little- didn't notice a black inner lining on one of her outfits (lesson learned...), but I'm sure I can clean her up. She's softer and much more flexible than when I first got her, but nothing is broken... I don't think anyway. Their toes don't have anything to break, right? I didn't pay attention when I first got her. If I'm wrong she may have broken a couple toes, but I'm pretty sure that's just the way she is. She's my only doll and we sleep totally wrapped around each other every night so she gets a lot of use, but so far so good! I think skeletal issues are inevitable on a long enough timeline, especially in cases like mine where she's my one and only, but hopefully we can go years without any trouble. I guess no doll is indestructible, but it's said Teddy Babes come the closest.

So, like I said, I have nothing to compare and contrast, but I tried to at least give the Teddy Babe side of the experience. While it's hard to imagine any other doll can come close in cuddlability, I'm sure all the fabric dolls are very cuddly. Hopefully someone comes along that has both and can give you personal testimony, as it can be hard to decide. I thought pretty hard about a Textile Doll for awhile, but in the end I guess the features that swayed me were the Teddy Babe's soft head, also that, although very beautiful, Textile Dolls look a little sad to me and I wanted a happy doll. I liked the easily made closed eyelids (which adds so much- if you get a Teddy Babe you have to try it!), and- now this may be erroneous, but from what I've pieced together I think the Teddy Babe has the most cuddle friendly skeleton even though in some ways it's kinda...well... it's a wire skeleton. What I do like about it though is that she can easily wrap her arms around you heedless of any joints and you never feel any hard "bones." The Dagmire doll certainly has it's own charms, but I wasn't into the huge Japanese cartoon style eyes. There is a cuteness about them though- something about that smile or almost-a-smile depending on how you look at her. I guess I never really gave them a chance with those goofy eyes, but a lot of people love the eyes and if you're one of those that do they're probably a great doll too.

Fabric dolls in general I think are underrated- perhaps I can expand that to say that cuddling itself is underrated, and fabric dolls excel at that with their innate softness, low weight, and durability. There's probably not a wrong choice here and you'd likely be very happy with any of them. It's good to learn as much as you can about them. It's also probably good if you just went with your heart. When it comes to the wonderful world of fabric dolls, every choice is the right choice because every choice is a cuddly choice.

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Re: Question - Anime Doll / Dagmar vs Teddy Babes

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Yeah the rather "neutral" expression was my concern too but TD does come also with a cartoon head. Basically similar to the Dagmar closed eye head. As for "pantyhose" skin, it's not exactly pantyhose. It's lycra. More akin to spandex to be honest. It's durable but it does not feel like skin. Silicone/TPE are much more skin-like materials than any fabric.

As for best cuddliness, TBD users seem to be very adamant that TBD is the best for that. This being attributed to the plush doll-like softness of the doll and the silky smooth feel of velour. Realistic it is not but perhaps it might be even better in some respect? Real women of that regular slim body type most of the dolls are sporting are not quite that soft. But does it matter if the TBD feels good to snuggle with?

The Dagmar has silicone breasts that might perhaps feel more realistic than the competitor's models. People have said that TBD breasts seem too hard and firm. TD uses the same foam over the breasts that the rest of the body uses, which means they won't behave like the real things. Silicone, while still more firm than real breasts, feel probably the best while snuggling.

I can only echo what other's have said here since I don't own any of the 3 models. I'm in line to get a TD but it's gonna be awhile. Best bet would probably be TBD if snuggling is 100% what you're going for. After all, you have the TPE for other kind of clandestine activities.
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I did not have an issue with the anime skin, it did not feel like pantyhose to me...It is pretty tight to the shape of the doll. It is not a smooth as the TBD only because the materials are different. Like you, I did get the anime for a snuggle buddy more than the sex aspect. The TBD was purchased out of curiousity for comparison. And as I said, I felt the anime was more snuggly and like cuddling with my girl. However, unfortunately, it comes down to preference...

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So many pluses and minuses to both types of dolls, makes for a tough decision. (TD and VV are both out, so it's between TBD and Dagmar for sure). I wish there was something out there that is similar to my wife. She is bit heavier set, so she's pretty soft except on the hips. I'd say her body type is similar to the WM158cm C-Cup chubby doll, but with larger breasts. We tend to sleep in just boxers for me and panties for her, and we usually sleep in a spooning position. Sometimes I have my hand on her hip, sometimes on her upper thigh, sometimes on her left buttock, and sometimes on her breast. I'd like to be able to replicate any of those positions. She's DD, borderline DDD (she's getting a reduction since it causes her back problems:( ), so I'd like to get something at least D cup. Based on that criteria (waist size of doll isn't important as long as it's not anorexic like WM142 G-cup), would it be easier to narrow down between the two? Sorry for all the questions! :)

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Dagmar isn't like panty hose stretched over memory foam, as mentioned Lycra/spandex is a bit different than hose. Also it doesn't feel like its stretch fabric over nerf, no, more like soft polyfill plush or pillow filling with skeleton giving it structure/form, and soft fabric (but not plushy or velour) on top. I find it difficult to capture the softness and firmness in words. Interesting how fabrics/fills etc are used to mimic a body feel in different ways with different dolls.

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Thanks for the info so far! Does anyone have any real pictures of the different eye choices for the Dagmar doll? The options on beatiful-dolls and unique-dolls are just anime pics and it's hard to tell what they would actually look like on the doll itself. Also, is there a comparison between the normal and light pink skin tones?

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Might want to look through albums on doll matrix http://matrix.dollforum.com/search_v3.p ... mit=search

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