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in regards to the cheap dolls even if you did get an actual doll it may be blended with harmful chems. while i forget who on the forum said this no truer words have ever been spoken.
Do you really want to risk it with something your going to be sticking your penis into???

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you are doing a good job. In China real have many manufacturer copy the original doll, because they are cheap, so attached many customer they can't pay more money for a sex doll. I just want to say everything has two sides. Of course i hate fake or copy product. And hope in the future China have less fake product and hard work to design product belong to themselves.

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In my experience, both of my dolls where purchase on ebay from two different sellers. It has been two years now and they are holding up well. The only issues i had was that the second doll i order with fixed vagina and they send me the one with insert. Also the color i order was tan and they send me light tan which was close to what i wanted. Aside from those two things everything else was with the options that i order.
On both orders i was a little worried because the sellers don't add the tracking until a week later after the purchase day. Communication was poor because they use google translator so the words where not accurate and a little confusing at times.
The main thing was that before ordering i make sure that there was good feed back on costumers that purchase dolls and that it was not a new ebay account. To be honest, i Would have order those dolls from any reputable website even if i had to pay $300.00 more than the ebay price. That would have save me the time i spend to do the research on each ebay seller plus i would have the peace of mind that nothing can go wrong. The thing was that the savings a had was $400.00 on the first doll and the second doll form the other seller i save $500.00 so it was a huge savings.
It all comes down to one thing and is if you are like me that is living on a small pension and have plenty of time for research go for a ebay seller with good feedback reputation on previously sold dolls always making sure that they have been ebay members for at least more than a year.
However if you don't have the time for research and have the money go for the website doll.

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I have been successful purchasing from Amazon and eBay.
I have also had 2 sellers on eBay that I had to get my money back because they never shipped.
Obviously, the price was too low and they weren’t going to sell me the doll after all. The “too good to be true” story.
But I had got lucky and found a decent seller on eBay. The three dolls I got from them were actually very nice, albeit clones, but very competitive pricing. The Skeletons were even so nice they could be positioned like the originals. Unlike most clones. If they had more body styles I was interested in, I would’ve probably purchased more from them. Not all unapproved TDF vendors are going to screw you. That’s a myth.
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What you relate is incontrovertible proof that you can strike lucky. But viewtopic.php?p=1374865#p1374865 is worth a read in relation to a doll which showed a manufacturing fault after 6 months.
Often people think they are being clever saving a vendor's profit and risking getting a fake by going through non TDF sources, Alibaba, Amazon and the rest. This thread is testimony as to why it's really important to go through a TDF approved vendor, and buy from a TDF approved brand.

There was recently a non-approved brand doll sold by a TDF vendor. It was defective. The non-approved manufacturer was footdragging in offering a replacement and causing horrible embarrassment to the TDF approved vendor. Thanks to the appropriately high expectations that doll enthusiasts can have of TDF accredited vendors, thanks to TDF and thanks to manufacturers connected by people with TDF links who value their reputation, it was possible to armtwist an appropriate solution and the buyer was able to have bought through that umbrella of safety that TDF provides.

Manufacturers must live in fear and quake in their shoes at possible bad publicity on the public forum and this results in all the swifter solutions where a doll might have got through the net of quality control at the factory. And knowledgeable members with experience of a number of dolls know the norms we can expect from a doll in manufacture, and those with half an idea of the processes at the factory can identify particular manufacturing issues. In contrast buying through a non-accredited vendor would lead to having bought a pup with no resolution nor recourse.

Buy through a non-approved vendor and of course, wherever the doll came from genuine or not, it's a fake! Even if genuine, it might just as well have been a fake as there's no way of proving it. Buy through a non-approved vendor and whether or not it's a fake the manufacturer will say that it is . . .

So when people ask "Is it OK to buy through . . . XYZ" being a clever-dick, the answer is firmly NO.

Or rather, TDF approved vendors' profits, which are thin, and the higher price that manufacturers might charge for dolls intended for the international market build in the higher costs of replacing a faulty doll. Faulty dolls do happen, and TDF provides that umbrella of protection to ensure replacement where necessary. By from non-TDF approved sources and you're basically self insuring. If you're wealthy and can afford to to that and shoulder all risks, great, even if those risks might not surface until some months down the line. But the chances are that being made to lower cost the likelihood of being made to lower quality is higher.

There's actually a good reason why you can expect to pay more for a TDF approved manufacturer brand. The quality of TPE is dependant upon proper mixing of the materials, proper heating through of the granules and that takes time, and the length of time held at a high temperature and slow cooling. The reward for slower cooling, and therefore ability to churn out fewer dolls per day, is that during the cooling cross-linking of the molecules is built up, so that slower cooled TPE is better quality than fast cooled TPE. Fewer dolls made per day means more expensive dolls. . .

Whilst I haven't been to a TDF factory personally, two or three years ago I started helping the representative of a new manufacturer and became involved in helping to enforce quality control at the new factory. As I received one after another prototype doll I got to see TPE from the worst quality and manufacturing processes and as a result of that experience I'm able to assist in making a judgment of whether damage seen is likely to be as a result of inexperience and treatment of a doll by a customer or whether a manufacturing fault. No manufacturer can hide behind a shield of "it's the customer's fault" as a result.

It all goes to build a collection of aspects of TDF that make TDF a most valuable fulcrum among doll enthusiasts, vendors and manufacturers alike to ensure that dolls are of the highest quality and lead to people's lives being the happier as a result of the presence of a doll in their home.


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I think it really depends on the seller or manufacturer, I've bought three doll from a approved manufacturer on the fourm and they all had trouble in less then six months all I got were excuses, now I the other hand I've brought 5 dolls off ebay and there all over a year old and I've not had any trouble at all but I went with sellers that had been on ebay along time and had 99 or 100 present approval, a little over a month ago I ordered a doll from jeff at BCD when I received her the box was pretty beat up and her neck was really bent I told jeff about it but I told him I thought she would be fine but one day when I was carrying her her back snapped I had her in the bridal carry position when it happened I contacted Jeff at BCD and he contacted Doll4ever and they wanted pics which we sent and they sent me a new body which is what they should have done. My point is whoever or wherever you buy from do your research don't just read the first page of new comments dig deeper find a complaint see how it was resolved not all vendors, seller's or manufacturers have the integrity that Jeff at BCD has.
So the main thing is do your your research not all dolls from eBay are bad and not all doll from manufacturer are good, I will say this I ordered a doll with heat and sound from eBay it's Debbie and it took them a little longer to make her so she was late getting her by 3 days on the second day I complained I didnt know she was going to be here the next day and to make it up to me and keep me from leaving them a bad review they sent me a free head, so again I would say just do your research and make a informed buying decision.
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Not just Jeff are BCD. The UK vendors are good. Sandro in Germany and Bruno in France have had good relationships with manufacturers getting replacements. Don Delano at Monaco Amour Toujours is good too and a host of other TDF vendors. It's also which manufacturer you choose. Leonard at Irontech demonstrated an immediate response to an error recently and you report well of Doll4ever. Joyce at OR is good too.

Some Chinese manufacturers are tight fisted and rather more difficult to elicit cooperation.

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Hi, do any of these type of traders sell 'ahem' :whistle: cheap silicone?
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matt gloss wrote:Hi, do any of these type of traders sell 'ahem' :whistle: cheap silicone?
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That is a good question. The best way to repair a silicone doll is to use silicone and the best way to repair a TPE doll is to use TPE. I wonder if some one sell at least by small quantities.

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I assumed Matt meant silicone doll, not raw silicone.
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Hi,you are correct RK :thumbs_up: i did indeed mean silicone doll :whistle:
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Possibly the cheapest silicone is JM and they are very good for the money. The 156 silicone knocks a TPE doll into a cocked hat.

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Hi and thanks Harem thats good to know :thumbs_up:
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haremlover wrote:Possibly the cheapest silicone is JM and they are very good for the money. The 156 silicone knocks a TPE doll into a cocked hat.

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