Abyss/Boy Toy/wicked Mini Doll anyone?
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Abyss/Boy Toy/wicked Mini Doll anyone?
New member, but long, long time lurker here.
We all know other vendors (especially Asian vendors) have produced and marketed 65cm to 125cm mini dolls, which could be a real plus for interested doll owners who would consider a doll, but want to avoid the cumbersome weight, difficult to conceal size and overall hassle of handling and cleaning a full-size 50 to 80lb doll. (no offense to full-size doll lovers!)
One pervasive problem with many of the minis out there, however, is the questionably young looking faces that are being produced and marketed. This, unfortunate reality, in my opinion, sends a lot of prospective, interested, mini doll buyers running straight for the hills...and for good reason. A testament to this unfortunate reality is customs seizures of some of these dolls.
IMO, there's millions of "fleshlight" owners out there who would readily warm up to the thought of owning a sexy looking, fully-functioning , mature faced, light, easy to handle, clean and conceal mini doll, but, understandably shy away from the questionably younger looking dolls being marketed.
John, from DS Doll (Doll Sweet) has stated they are re-working their 100cm minis with more mature heads and larger breasts, along with correcting skeletal issues. This is a very wise move, and if done correctly, they will sell a lot of these dolls.
Frankly, I am perplexed why a Abyss, a pioneer in the doll world, hasn't tapped into this potentially huge market and produced a MATURE FACED mini for it. Apparently, they're working right now on a "non-sexual" mini. Why not take the next step up?
Abyss dolls are works of art that are worth the price. I think a nice, slim, scaled-down Abyss doll in the 90cm, 20lb (not over 25lb.!) range would fit the bill nicely.
Maybe Abyss is scared of these dolls encroaching on sales of their full-size dolls? But, it seems to me, it would be easier to sell say, 1,000 high quality mini Abyss dolls at $2,000 to $3,000 than 100 full-size dolls at $6,000 to $7,000.
IMO, the only "possibly available" doll that really fits the bill of a clearly mature mini is a Sanhui 92cm body, 88cm mature head "hybrid," conceived by Sandro of Doll Studio. He (Sandro) took the unboxed 92cm mini doll, removed the "Miki" (too young looking head, IMO), and replaced it with the gorgeous, much more mature 88cm head. (click on the link below and scroll down to where Sandro attaches the 88cm head!!).
http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=227&t=77402
What you get is a compact, CLEARLY MATURE (avoid customs seizure) sexy, fully-functional, easy to lift, handle, clean and conceal 15lb. doll--that has all the visual and tactile stimulating attributes of a full-size doll, without the weight and cumbersome size.
What are your thoughts?
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Those small child size Sex dolls can create legal troubles in many ways and that is something that he wishes to avoid and I agree with that fully myself!
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This. I wouldn't mess with those little dolls either if I were Abyss. And if you can't handle a doll heavier than 25 lbs, all I can ask is...TTNLBTPD wrote:My best guess is they don't want to sell dolls that look like children. If they wanted to go your suggested route I'm sure they would already be doing it.
No, but seriously, I don't know what your situation is. But I'd rather get stronger to be able to handle a doll that looks like a woman than have to stick to one that looks like a child with ridiculous breast implants.
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Point taken.DollCuriousMaybe wrote:This. I wouldn't mess with those little dolls either if I were Abyss. And if you can't handle a doll heavier than 25 lbs, all I can ask is...TTNLBTPD wrote:My best guess is they don't want to sell dolls that look like children. If they wanted to go your suggested route I'm sure they would already be doing it.
No, but seriously, I don't know what your situation is. But I'd rather get stronger to be able to handle a doll that looks like a woman than have to stick to one that looks like a child with ridiculous breast implants.
Disabled and/or elderly/frail doll enthusiasts that can't lift/carry full-sized dolls aside, my assertion is some buyers--even buyers strong enough to lift full-size dolls--would still like smaller mini dolls, not just because of weight, but also CONVENIENCE. Truly scaled-down smaller dolls with clearly ADULT FACES will sell without triggering customs, but I understand if Abyss wants to completely avoid smaller dolls due to legal fears.
It will be interesting to wait and see if DS (Doll Sweet) follows through and releases "improved" more adult faced minis, as their work is "on-par" with Abyss.
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There is another US doll maker that just came out w/a nice small silicone doll.
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Yep, I kinda agree, but the OP is specifically after this makers thoughts and options WRT a mini...and the point you also made is valid...just ensure you post that it the right maker section...but as a clue your close... have a look through the parent topic.....http://www.dollforum.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=52rubherkitty wrote:This would really had been better posted in "Dolls in General" section as it is more of a calling all doll maker's question and not just Abyss.
There is another US doll maker that just came out w/a nice small silicone doll.
Now that said..that 125 cm silicone is definately an adult doll....there is a market for it it in the silicone range for sure in a more afordable slightly lighter silicone top shelfer.....abyss should consider a mini...just not under 125 cm ATM.
OH BTW...the Ozzy way of do you even lift Bro is...
Even our roo's are hard as f@ck!
But I kinda like this one....
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There is much more to this than simply legal concerns. If there even is any. We are talking pure speculation here. Is there enough of a demand to make a profit? Abyss is by no means a large company and I'm sure cannot afford to just bring products to market without any expectation of making a profit from it. So many people conveniently sweep that part of the discussion under the rug. Even large companies get themselves into financial troubles trying to be everything to everyone.Disabled and/or elderly/frail doll enthusiasts that can't lift/carry full-sized dolls aside, my assertion is some buyers--even buyers strong enough to lift full-size dolls--would still like smaller mini dolls, not just because of weight, but also CONVENIENCE. Truly scaled-down smaller dolls with clearly ADULT FACES will sell without triggering customs, but I understand if Abyss wants to completely avoid smaller dolls due to legal fears.
I personally see the Mechadoll's, PIB, and Ruby13's of the world bringing dolls like these to market before Abyss. Their product offerings are pretty old. Again through, would they even have the money to bring small dolls to market.
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There IS a new HQ mini being made by a US doll maker.pastydude wrote:I'd buy one. Haven't been able to find a real high quality mini since Virgin Rose Doll disappeared.
Can't post their name here as this is not their forum.
Look around.
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I rate that experience like crusin' in a Shelby with special agent S.
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Ayla-WM dolls - 155cm DD cup model
Jessica Jade-PD - 163cm, Penelope fitness version .
Mazzy M-JY/AS Doll 166cm fitness model
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