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by **sotonados** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:40 pm

Doll House 161 is on my top 2 to buy in the next months from dollstudio.
The other is Doll 4ever-155. Both have in from me the greatest bodys.
When I'm ready to purchase sure i'm gonna need your opinion also Dollstudio.

by **IWI** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:07 pm

flanker37 wrote:Hello, I know I'm super late to reply to this post. I think I felt in love with that first picture, I can't stop looking at her. I'm new to all this real doll thing. I have spent the last two days doing some search. I know you don't sell the exact same hair wig. But I really liked the look of Kaede in the first picture.
I want one exactly like her
Where can I buy this wig? What is the name of this type of hair style?

I think it is a "bob" hair style.
Also "swept bangs" or "side bangs" may be a descriptive that helps.
I'm figuring it out, too.

That 161cm is crazy. So is the Dollhouse 168's 150cm "Lillian" in Blonde wig. Worth google searching.
Body is nuts, face is beautiful.The photo shoot of that "lillian" version is amazing.

by **Obin** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:41 am

I shouldn't have looked at the 161 again. I adore her figure.

by **Virgin_Doll** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:18 am

Thanks flanker37
Thanks to you, I found this topic

And I fully agree with you, too, I can not remove my eyes, just imaginative

by **flanker37** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:27 am

Hello, I know I'm super late to reply to this post. I think I felt in love with that first picture, I can't stop looking at her. I'm new to all this real doll thing. I have spent the last two days doing some search. I know you don't sell the exact same hair wig. But I really liked the look of Kaede in the first picture.
I want one exactly like her

Where can I buy this wig? What is the name of this type of hair style?

by **Asterix** » Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:57 pm

Obin wrote:Excellent video. I don't see a reason to make those any softer.

That first video is amazing! I highly recommend watching it.

It is very difficult to judge the softness by a video.
You have to feel

I prefer softer girls , it is very important that the vagina is soft for realism.

Regards

Asterix

by **Obin** » Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:31 pm

Excellent video. I don't see a reason to make those any softer.

That first video is amazing! I highly recommend watching it.

by **kookaburra** » Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:13 pm

Hi Sandro, thanks for that 158 jiggle demo. I think it goes a long way to help us figure out the softness of these dolls - as I've said elsewhere, describing them as being "harder than WM" doesn't do much for marketing them. I think they are absolutely beautiful and love the details, so seeing that these are not 'hard" is really great. I'd live to see more!

by **Dollstudio** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:05 pm

DarkOne wrote:Hinge, ball joint, multi-link suspension, I don't really care what they use so long as its not wire that snaps with normal everyday use. I don't need anatomically correct. What I need is a doll that does not act like it has broken wrists after normal everyday use.

That's good, so we are (almost) on the same page here

Except that I want an - as close as possible - anatomically correct range of movement in the ideal doll, they can use whatever works. I don't know how the DH168 wrists are constructed, but they do provide what you are asking for. They are robust, have a great range of movement and don't break, even in photographical (= more stressful) use. Opposed to the skeletons mostly used by a certain other manufacturer.

Regarding the current DH168 foot design, they still use a gooseneck. IMHO, this should be changed to a solid plate, which would enable other possibilities like standing as well.

DarkOne wrote:[…] is a fine wrist design IMO. One axis is more then enough.

I tend to disagree. This is a doll I dismantled because certain parts of the skeleton broke. Twice, actually. Maybe I make a more detailed post about this sometime. It was an very expensive experience for us (the vendor).

DarkOne wrote:Sadly the skeletons pictured in the video you linked don't have the wrist/hand installed yet.

Maybe I'm a bit paranoid, but I believe there is a reason that almost no manufacturer shows detailed pictures of the parts in question. That leaves us with to forensic methods: X-ray, and cutting the doll open. I don't have access to X-ray equipment, which only leaves me the destructive method of wasting a $2,000 doll just to check how the skeleton actually looks. I am not sure yet if it's worth that…

In the meantime I made a quick video to demonstrate how the wrists move: http://en.dollstudio.org/node/1663.

Sandro

by **DarkOne** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:17 pm

Dollstudio wrote:
DarkOne wrote:Ok this did not explain anything to me.
What I want to know is does the doll have a hinge, with 2 pieces of metal and a pin, going from the arm to a plate inside the hand, Like DS and pretty much every silicone doll does it. Or does it use wires from the arm, going through the hand to produce a wire 'wrist' like WM?
Wesly's comment didn't explain a lot to me, either, but on the other hand, I don't understand the fetishism with "hinges" neither. Also I severely doubt that "pretty much every silicone doll" has hinges in the wrists or ankles. I have asked many times about detailed photos and never got a precise response except vague claims.

Even Jinsan appears to make claims to use hinges in the wrists, or makes customers believe that there are hinges, or even shipped sometimes skeletons with hinges.

Please see these threads:

Trying to clarify what we are talking about: http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 73#p889573

I believe, the movement we are talking about is generated in fibula and talus (for the foot) respectively ulna and radius (for the hand). A simple two-axis hinge can hardly mimic this movement properly (imho), that's why I'm not conviced that a hinge is the only valid design for wrists and ankles.

General discussion about DH168 TPE doll skeleton: http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=259&t=70996

This video shows some details of the skeletons in the background (starting at about 10 minutes):
...
And here is a breast jiggle demonstration with the DH158:
...
Sandro

Hinge, ball joint, multi-link suspension, I don't really care what they use so long as its not wire that snaps with normal everyday use.

I don't need anatomically correct. What I need is a doll that does not act like it has broken wrists after normal everyday use.

http://dollforum.com/forum/download/fil ... &mode=view <- is a fine wrist design IMO. One axis is more then enough.

My issue is that with no abuse, a hinge, ball joint or other 'metal on metal' style of joint will last a very long time, It might loosen some but unless you put a lot of force on it, it will always be OK and keep the hand in a believable position.

A wire based hinge will snap with no abuse at all and you would be lucky to be able to change its position 100 times before it does snap. Once it snaps the hand flops around like a dead person.

Sadly the skeletons pictured in the video you linked don't have the wrist/hand installed yet.

by **Dollstudio** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:46 am

DarkOne wrote:Ok this did not explain anything to me.
What I want to know is does the doll have a hinge, with 2 pieces of metal and a pin, going from the arm to a plate inside the hand, Like DS and pretty much every silicone doll does it. Or does it use wires from the arm, going through the hand to produce a wire 'wrist' like WM?

Wesly's comment didn't explain a lot to me, either, but on the other hand, I don't understand the fetishism with "hinges" neither. Also I severely doubt that "pretty much every silicone doll" has hinges in the wrists or ankles. I have asked many times about detailed photos and never got a precise response except vague claims.

Even Jinsan appears to make claims to use hinges in the wrists, or makes customers believe that there are hinges, or even shipped sometimes skeletons with hinges.

Please see these threads:

Trying to clarify what we are talking about: http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 73#p889573

I believe, the movement we are talking about is generated in fibula and talus (for the foot) respectively ulna and radius (for the hand). A simple two-axis hinge can hardly mimic this movement properly (imho), that's why I'm not conviced that a hinge is the only valid design for wrists and ankles.

General discussion about DH168 TPE doll skeleton: http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=259&t=70996

This video shows some details of the skeletons in the background (starting at about 10 minutes):
And here is a breast jiggle demonstration with the DH158:
Sandro

by **DarkOne** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:11 am

Asterix wrote:
Dollstudio wrote:Hi,

regarding the questions: Yes, the heads should mechanically fit on a WM/YL/OR body, but the neck connector is not identical (the nut is fixed in neck; with WM, their nut, screws and head are separate). But the skin tones are different.

Regarding bulging eyes: "Wesly has used hand to poke doll's oral, the eyes not bulging out much as WM's doll, because new doll have more thicker material behind the eyes."

The DH168 TPE dolls are not as soft as current TPE blend from WM/YL/OR because it uses less softeners. The breasts are alternatively available with hollow breast design or solid.

And btw, Happy New Year!

-Ira

Very sorry to hear that the doll is firmer than WM, that will not close the deal for me.
Softness is very imporatant for me.
This doll has one of the nicest breats shapes and vaginal design I have seen on a doll.

/Asterix

As an owner of a WM I don't think you really need WM level of softness. Its nice at times but its pretty damn squishy.

"You.. made them kinda squishy" - sex doll from a short hentai clip.

Will be interesting to see exactly how hard Dollstudio168 are.

by **DarkOne** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:06 am

Dollstudio wrote:Hi,

@haremlover: Wesly replied to this question with the following comment:

Yes, Wrist is indeed can twist, but it's not fixed, usually when I take pictures for this doll, first twist the wrist then bend the elbow,so use the friction resistance of TPE, keeping palms facing up.
Please note that discussions about hinges in doll's hands regularily end up in misunderstandings as the term hinge joints is used in anatomy differently. There is currently no commercial doll I know of that uses hinge joints for the interphalangeal articulations of the hand in the anatomical sense.

-Ira

Ok this did not explain anything to me.
What I want to know is does the doll have a hinge, with 2 pieces of metal and a pin, going from the arm to a plate inside the hand, Like DS and pretty much every silicone doll does it.

Or does it use wires from the arm, going through the hand to produce a wire 'wrist' like WM?

by **Dollstudio** » Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:38 am

Mike0122 wrote:[…] I was trying to find this doll on the Doll Matrix. […]

As far as I can see, DH168 is neither listed in the Doll Matrix as a brand, nor as a manufacturer, nor as a vendor.

Sandro

by **Mike0122** » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:55 am

Sorry I didn't want to start a whole new thread for one question. I was trying to find this doll on the Doll Matrix. Maybe I just don't know how to navigate it properly but I couldn't find anything for the DH 168 exclusive dolls... Can anyone confirm this or point me to a link?