The Doll Forum

Hi,

and here are some detail photos how Piper Doll's new hanging mechanism looks like:

[attachment=1]piper-doll-hook-01.jpg[/attachment]

[attachment=0]piper-doll-hook-02.jpg[/attachment]

These parts come [b]for free[/b] with every Piper Doll created after October 15th, 2019.

Sandro

Hi,

here are some pictures how Xycolo's [b]neck hook[/b] looks like:

[attachment=1]xycolo-neck-hook-0101.jpg[/attachment]

[attachment=0]xycolo-neck-hook-0102.jpg[/attachment]

Sandro

Hi,

the next approach for dressing, storage and photography is provided by silicone doll manufacturer [b]Xycolo[/b].

Similar to [i]Doll Sweet[/i], there is a flexible system for hanging available directly from the manufacturer.

[b]Neck hook[/b]. The simplest variant is an eybolt which is screwed into the neck. Since the spigot part of the neck connector is part of the head, the eyebolt doesn't require a nut. It more or less 'connects' directly with the skeleton in the body. Xycolo charges for this accessory, but a hardware store might have alternatives.

[b]'Back hook'[/b]. The secod option is similar to the back hook option as provided by Z-Onedoll, Hitdoll, Ildoll, and Sino-doll. The difference is that the Xycolo approach doesn't screw an eyebolt into the back, it's just a rod.

[attachment=1]xycolo-hanging-0102.jpg[/attachment]

I haven't seen this in action yet so I can not tell if this approach is better than an eyebolt. Anyway, it is supposed to deliver a similar functionality as known from many 'classic' silicone dolls. It allows the doll to stay in an upright position with head attached.

The 'back hook' option is free of charge; it cosists of an hole and a cap to close the hole. The rod is part of the doll stand.

Last but not least, Xycolo has a [b]doll stand[/b]. It looks very similar to the Doll Sweet predecessor, but it has wheels.

[attachment=0]xycolo-doll-stand-3681.jpg[/attachment]

As far as I can tell, Xycolo's doll stand does only support the 'back hook' hanging method.

Sandro

Hi,

let's update this thread a bit.

Since October 15th, 2019, every [b]Piper Doll[/b] comes with a free hanging hook for storage and photography.

This mechanism consists of an eyebolt piece, which leads through the head. The eybolt part can be hung onto a hook.

[attachment=0]piper-doll-hanging-hook-3.jpg[/attachment]

As far as I know, the Piper Doll mechanism is the first manufacturer-supplied solution for hanging a TPE doll with head attached.

Making such an effort is highly appreciated. It's hard to understand that no other TPE doll maker provides such an accessory.

Sandro

These dolls look so much different in real than of those pictures on stores.

Hi Sandro,

I was using a love swing and luggage scale to measure the weight of a 4woods S+ body, since there is no standing / hanging device for this body.
I have a bed gallow for hanging my DS girls for foto shoots, and it accepts a love swing as well. Max load is 90 kg.

[attachment=1]2015-07-05_0034.jpg[/attachment].

I have to agree to Everhard, the DS hang kit for storage is way over designed. A steel wire 1mm diameter carries 1 metric ton 8O (static).
My own design "foto" hang kit uses a M3 threaded rod and the girls have been hanging for a week on the gallow with no floor contact. They could hang there forever...

[attachment=0]L&L Jeans_015.jpg[/attachment]

Thank you for the info since I am planning to hang my doll in closet.

Everhard,
I am guessing DS is playing it safe, but one thing you could do is place nooks or something under her feet to even make it safer.
Best,
Jeff

[size=150]Body hang[/size]

This DS Dolls mechanism is a proverbial sledgehammer to crack a nut:

[url=https://www.dollforum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=332252&mode=view][img]https://www.dollforum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=332252&t=1[/img][/url]

Ray Rentell, who lo longer frequents this doll forum (for reasons unknown to me) came up with this simple eye bolt that you can buy for two dollars via eBay:
[attachment=0]EyeBoltForBodyHangDS_79.jpg[/attachment]

It simply screws in to the hollow threaded shaft that sticks up out of the neck. (The DS mechanism has a fiddly attachment to that circumferential indentation half way down.)

[size=150]Whole doll hang[/size]

The through-head hang system is described in this topic as suitable only for hanging temporarily, but I do not see why. The tensile stress is all on steel parts, above the neck post anyway. If everything from the neck post down is strong enough to hang indefinitely (which it seems to be) then the whole doll should be able do so. I have left my DS doll hanging a couple of days or so from the through-head bracket with no problem.

[b]Tip:[/b] When you screw in the long and thin through-head thing, unscrew it one turn before feeding it through the hole in the head. Then you can turn the head without twisting the steel bracket. This piece:
[img]https://www.dollforum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=332265&t=1[/img]

Where can I buy this hook set up?

[quote="Booty Call Dolls"]Do you have one of those weight machines to show the stress on the neck joint when hanging with her feet in the air vs her feet on the ground?
Can we get a weight on floor scale when hanging and feet on the ground?
I feel that data will be an eye opener for many.[/quote]

That little weight experiment turns out to be a bit more complicated…

The idea was to take this package scale…

[attachment=3]DSC05174.JPG[/attachment]

…to measure the real weight of a doll with standing skeleton [i]and[/i] hanging capability. The scale I got has a base plate of 40×40 cm, so a doll can stand more or less safely:

[attachment=2]DSC05173.JPG[/attachment]

So far everything works. That's the real weight of the JY-168 I have [url=https://www.dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=128&t=88727]currently on stock[/url]: 32.96 kg with head attached.

[attachment=1]DSC05175.JPG[/attachment]

That's a pretty accurate measurement, According to the current specs, she is supposed to be 32.4 kg. About 0.5 kg deviation is excellent.

The next step would be to replace the head with a hook, hang the hook onto another scale, and then hang that scale onto a doll stand. Something like so:

[attachment=0]DSC05178.JPG[/attachment]

The problem is that the construct for measuring is ~40 cm long, plus height of parcel scale from floor (5 cm) = ~45 cm. At max extension, the doll stand is about 175 cm, so to combine standing & hanging, the doll must not be taller than ~130 cm. All the dolls I have here are either taller, or have no hanging capability, or no standing skeleton.

To proceed with this experiment, I need to wait until I get a doll <=130 cm with standing & hanging capability. Or I neetd to elevate the stand with it's base frame of 65×65 cm half a meter above the package scale and still get a doll onto the stand.

I am all ears if someone has a better idea…

Sandro

Sandro,
Great stuff!

Peonyou101,
IMHO, a good vendor should ask how you plan on storing your doll.
I adopt out mostly TPE dolls so if people say the word hang, I tell them not to let her hang unless both feet are supported.
Once Sandro gets that scale, it will be an EYE OPENER.
Then again, I see vendors selling black lingerie.
YIKES!
Jeff

Thankyou Dollstudio for sharing this info, this is great info for people looking for methods of hanging up their dolls for storage so the doll don't take up as much room just laying there or sitting in a chair, most dolls I've seen arn't built to be sat long term in a chair either which can cause dent and rips over time due to joints being bent for too long and stretching the material of the parts that are bent in the legs. I don't know why either most of the manufacturers and vendors that sells doll do not have a section on their websites either about tools they sell for storing dolls either, you pretty much have to dig up the info yourself or trying contacting them to find out if they carry such a thing. The few that I have found that sells them seem very expensive also. Its like they purposely use the M16 thread on the neck bolt cause I have looked and no regular hardware stores uses the M16 thread so they pretty much charge whatever high price they want to people interested in hanging up their TPE or Silicone dolls. Dollstudio, when you have time can you also tell us the prices to all these hanging tools you mentioned here and where we can buy them from. Thankyou

2) [b]Setting up the doll with head for display[/b].

The long thin piece can be screwed inside the doll's neck bolt. Then it can be pushed through the hole in the head. You can attach the head to the body as usual; the end of the thin piece will peek out a bit on top of the head.

With these elements, you can hang the doll with attached head onto a doll stand (or anything else that is able to carry the other end of the hook). These elements are [i]not[/i] designed for long time storage but for display purposes.

[attachment=9]ds-doll-hook-6040-dsdolleurope.jpg[/attachment]

The long thin piece is screwed into the neck joint:

[attachment=8]ds-doll-hook-6041-dsdolleurope.jpg[/attachment]

…then it goes through the hole in the doll's head:

[attachment=7]ds-doll-hook-6042-dsdolleurope.jpg[/attachment]

The end peeks out on top of the doll's head, like so:

[attachment=6]ds-doll-stand-6043-dsdolleurope.jpg[/attachment]

…and can be hung on a hook or a doll stand.

[attachment=5]ds-doll-stand-6044-dsdolleurope.jpg[/attachment]

Detail of the connections:

[attachment=4]ds-doll-stand-6045-dsdolleurope.jpg[/attachment]

The long piece is thin enough to pierce through the fabric of most wigs without damaging the wig. Also it might be easier to dress a hanging doll.

The Doll Hook is a handy utility for everyone who already has a compatible doll stand or wants to build his own; it's easy to use and worked quite well, at least in the variant shown above.

For a while, DS is shipping slightly different pieces. The "long thin piece" currently looks like this:

[attachment=3]DSC05166.JPG[/attachment]

That's the side that goes into the doll's neck:

[attachment=2]DSC05168.JPG[/attachment]

…and that side goes onto the hook:

[attachment=1]DSC05169.JPG[/attachment]

There are some reports that this new "long thin piece" does not fit through all heads, or gets stuck halfway in. I sent the last "old" doll hook to a customer who reported that problem, and I am severely regretting it - the "old" pieces worked a lot smoother.

However, the flexibility DS offers with this set is still excellent. DS dolls do not need a massive eye bolt in their back for hanging, the kit is designed for long term storage, and the "long thin piece" can - if it works - help to avoid [url=http://dollforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1154803#p1154803]mishaps like this[/url] (btw, I love this photo ;-).

If you take the original doll stand and the "ling thin piece" for hanging, you will need to photoedit your pictures:

[attachment=0]DSC00902.JPG[/attachment][attachment=1]DSC05169.JPG[/attachment]

You can make your doll float, like I did with Leia/Youyi above, but some part of the doll stand or the hook will be almost always visible.

On the other hand, you could build a DIY connector. The thread at the end that goes into the dolls neck has a width of about 5.85 mm, which makes it effectively compatible with a M6 screw

Sandro

Hi,

@Jeff: I ordered a parcel scale with movable display and will try to figure out a setup. I am curious about real measurements, too.

The draft idea is to hang the doll onto a doll stand a put her feet onto a parcel scale and then shift the weight around. Maybe I'll need a winch for that, we'll see.

Today I want to continue with devices [b]Doll Sweet[/b] is offering for hanging and storage. Most of it will be based on an older post with some updates.

[i]Doll Sweet[/i] offers two products for hanging, display and storage:

a) a (relatively elegant) [i]doll stand[/i] for display, and
b) a [i]doll hook[/i] for hanging the doll body.

The latter one is sometimes referred to as [b]hang kit[/b] as it used to come with several parts. The hang kit is included with a DS doll stand.

The Doll Sweet [b]Doll Hook[/b] allows to

a) present the doll [i]with[/i] attached head temporarily on a suitable stand, and
b) to store the doll [i]without[/i] attached head permanently on a suitable hanging device.

Basically, the doll hook is a part from the doll stand that [i]Doll Sweet[/i] decided to offer separately; it's intended for all those who don't need the rather expensive original stand and allows to connect either the doll's body for long time storage, or to set up the doll with attached head for (tempory) display.

The [i]Doll Hook[/i] comes with three pieces that do not really have names; it's
a) a "heavy piece",
b) a long "thin piece", and
c) a simple connector with two hooks.

Let's take a look at the intended use cases.

1) [b]Long time storage of the doll's body[/b].

The "heavy piece" goes onto the neck bolt; you can screw it tight, and then it allows to hang the doll's body onto any hook, e.g. in your closet. This piece is designed for long time storage of the body:

[attachment=1]ds-doll-hook-6038-dsdolleurope.jpg[/attachment]

The doll hook is connected to neck joint in doll's body:

[attachment=2]ds-doll-hook-6037-dsdolleurope.jpg[/attachment]

The complete setup for long time storage with the hook on a doll stand looks like so:

[attachment=0]ds-doll-stand-6039-dsdolleurope.jpg[/attachment]

(continued in next post)